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View Poll Results: When do you think Turkey will gain full entry to the EU?
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20th August 2005, 08:09
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Negativity towards Turkey growing.... Let's Not Talk Turkey
Guess who won't be joining the European Union anytime soon.
by Gerard Baker
Weekly Standard (Subscription required for full story)
EVEN BY THE EUROPEAN UNION'S own standards of vaulting futility, the charade it will inaugurate on October 3 will be especially pointless. On that date, to great fanfare, the European Union will formally launch accession negotiations for Turkey. Heads of government will speak solemnly about this historic opportunity. Officials will lovingly pore over sheaves of paper that map out Turkey's route to membership inthe European club at some unspecified moment in the future. Scribes of a romantic disposition will celebrate the great merger of East and West represented by the bridging of the Bosphorus.
This being Brussels, seat of the fantasy empire of geostrategic make-believe, no one will be so impolite as to point out the absurdity of the occasion. But the truth is Turkey has as much chance of joining the European Union as John Kerry has of winning a recount in Ohio. It isn't going to happen.
Merv!
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23rd August 2005, 13:03
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Why the West is excluding Turkey....
Milliyet
Why is Turkey excluded from EU?
It's not known why the Europe Union doesn't want Turkey because the EU does not clearly say or cannot explain properly what it wants from Turkey. Many Europeans cite the fact that only a small potion of Turkish land is located in continental Europe, said Milliyet's Yaman Törüner.
“However, they accepted Greek Cyprus, an island considered to be part of Asia, in the EU. They say Turkey is a Muslim country but they forget the majority of the Balkan countries, whose membership was accepted in May, were a part of the Ottoman Empire before World War I,” he said.
“On the other side, Islam is accepted in many EU countries. For example, there are so many Muslims in the Evry region of France, a country notorious for acting with hostility towards Turkey, that no pork or alcohol are sold in the supermarkets there,” he added.
“There are 43 schools that offer Muslim education, even in tiny Netherlands, and there are applications to open more Islamic schools,” he said.
“Then what is the main justification for Turkey's rejection? EU Commissioner from the Netherlands Frits Bolkestain says Turkey is very big, very poor and very different.”
Listing the commissioner's views about why Turkey is excluded from Europe, Törüner wrote:
• If Turkey joins the EU, it will instantly be among the four largest countries in the union, along with Germany, France and Britain;
• Turkey's national income per capita amounts to 29 percent of the average EU income;
• The elite in Turkey is smaller than in Western countries;
• Turkey will bring an economic burden to the EU;
• There is no economic or political stability in Turkey;
• Turkey's human rights record still leaves much to be desired;
• There are attempts under way in Turkey to outlaw adultery; and
• Turkey still does not recognize the alleged Armenian genocide.
Törüner claimed that the main reason Turkey is not wanted is that Turkey is stronger than many EU countries.
He said Turkey is much stronger than most countries in Europe in terms of its land mass and its military strength. “The problem is that we are strong, not weak,” he said.
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27th August 2005, 10:37
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Chirac on collision course with Blair over Turkey in EU
UK Telegraph
President Jacques Chirac fired the first shots of a fresh diplomatic battle with Britain yesterday when he challenged the readiness of Turkey to open accession talks with the European Union.
Tony Blair, who holds the rotating presidency of the EU until the end of the year, is Turkey's strongest supporter within an increasingly hostile European bloc.
British officials publicly insist that the start of Turkey's accession talks are on track to begin on Oct 3, as agreed by all EU heads of government last December and again in June.
But that has been thrown into doubt by Mr Chirac, who suddenly expressed grave concerns about Turkey's long-standing refusal to recognise Cyprus before the start of the talks.
Mr Chirac gave warning that France's concerns would be raised at a key meeting of EU foreign ministers in Newport, Wales, next week. The informal meeting will represent a major challenge for Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, who has used his presidency position in the chair at EU meetings to silence any discussion of Turkey, at times brutally cutting colleagues short when they tried.
Officially, Mr Chirac is in favour of Turkey's eventual entry into the EU. But yesterday his position shifted dramatically. During talks in Paris, he told Jose Manuel Barroso, the European Commission president, that Turkey had acted in bad faith last month when it signed a key customs union with the EU then issued a separate declaration noting that membership of the pact did not imply recognition of Cyprus.
Ankara's declaration had negated the customs protocol, Mr Chirac told Mr Barroso. The declaration "poses political and legal problems, and is not in the spirit expected of a candidate to the union".
The Greek-speaking Republic of Cyprus joined the EU last year but Turkey recognises only the breakaway Turkish Cypriot regime in the north.
At the time of the July protocol signing, officials in London and Brussels hastened to play down the significance of the second, anti-Cyprus declaration, saying that recognition of Cyprus had never been a pre-condition for accession talks to start. But a Foreign Office spokesman said yesterday that it was clear that there would eventually have to be an EU response to Turkey's declaration.
In recent months it has seemed increasingly likely that Mr Chirac would try to find a pretext for changing his position on Turkish accession for reasons essentially to do with domestic politics.
French public opinion is strongly hostile to Turkish accession and the issue played a central role in the recent French referendum on the EU constitution, which ended in a dramatic No vote.
One of Mr Chirac's deadliest political rivals, his interior minister, Nicholas Sarkozy, vocally opposes Turkish accession.
Ironically, Mr Chirac's new-found concern for Cypriot sensibilities goes further than that of the Cypriot or Greek governments, which have both agreed not to block the start of Turkish accession talks on Oct 3.
Cyprus and Greece want talks to start, as they both believe that continuing talks offer their best chance of securing major concessions from Ankara.
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29th August 2005, 12:54
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Turkey looms large on EU agenda....
EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - The EU will kick off to a difficult start after the summer break when foreign ministers meet to discuss Turkey on Thursday - the last ministerial meeting before accession talks are due to open at the beginning of October.
The nature of the meeting, where no formal political decisions will be taken, means there is a chance of a more frank discussion on the exact position of each member state.
This may go some way to clear up the doubts surrounding the talks, which have become exacerbated over the summer months.
On Friday (26 August), more uncertainty was added to the political mix following statements from Paris.
French president Jacques Chirac, previously a strong supporter of opening talks with Ankara, appeared to be wavering on the issue when his spokesperson said that France wants to discuss Turkey's refusal to recognise Cyprus.
Technically, this is not a criterion for opening talks with the EU, although it has been implicit that Turkey would have to do this after talks have begun.
During the summer, Ankara agreed to extend a customs agreement to cover the whole of the EU, including Cyprus, but attached a declaration explicitly saying this did not mean formal recognition of the Mediterranean island-state.
The European Commission is to present its legal interpretation of the declaration at Thursday's meeting.
It is also set to reiterate its view that any move on the recognition of Cyprus should be governed by the UN as well as pointing out that Turkey has fulfilled all the criteria for opening the talks, and that member states now have a responsibility to fulfil their side of the bargain.
German support hangs in balance
However, much of the uncertainty is coming from Germany, which faces a general election on 18 September.
While the current chancellor is a firm supporter of Turkey and of opening the talks on time, he is predicted to lose the elections and be replaced by the Christian Democrat, Angela Merkel.
Ms Merkel, along with her party, has made it clear that she is against Turkey becoming a full member of the bloc and wrote to conservative heads of government last week to make this point clear.
If the leaders of both Germany and France start adding hurdles in the run-up to the talks, then they are very unlikely to start on time.
Another issue likely to become embroiled in this discussion is Croatia's membership bid.
Zagreb was supposed to open talks with the EU in March but was deemed not to have done enough to help find the fugitive general, Ante Gotovina.
For certain countries, such as Austria, a strong supporter of Croatia's bid, it will be hard to agree to open talks with Turkey when Zagreb's prospects remain up in the air.
Still no negotiating mandate
All of this comes on top of the fact that the EU's negotiating mandate with Turkey has not been agreed.
It has to be given the green light by all member states so that talks can start.
It is thought to be too political an issue to be agreed at EU ambassador level, meaning there has to be a formal ministerial meeting.
As of yet, there is no formal ministerial meeting in Brussels scheduled until 3 October, leaving open the prospect that the mandate will have to be signed off on the day the talks are formally supposed to open.
All of this will be a big headache for the current British EU presidency, which is insisting that talks start as planned.
For its part, Turkey has remained upbeat about the prospect of the talks opening on time.
"The talks will begin because EU leaders are prudent enough not to overshadow or disregard strategic policies...due to internal political troubles or problems relating to conjecture", foreign minister Abdullah Gul was quoted by the Anatolia news agency as saying over the weekend.
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13th September 2005, 23:16
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Non Active Member
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Legacy of coup still reverberates throughout Turkey....
Financial Times
Turkey faces formidable hurdles in its effort to join the European Union, from growing opposition abroad to internal divisions and historical baggage.
One of the biggest challenges is to confront the legacy of the coup 25 years ago that did much to shape the way the country is now perceived.
The coup on September 12 1980 was not the first time Turkey’s armed forces had overthrown an elected government, but it was the most brutal. There were tanks on the streets as martial law was followed by mass arrests and the silencing of dissent.
The coup is recalled on Tuesday with a collective shrug, a reflection of the common view that the armed forces did what they had to do and that those days are now over. An attempt to stage a “never again” rally in Istanbul at the weekend was banned for security reasons. There were no television documentaries or academic conferences to mark the anniversary.
Yet the coup’s legacy is starkly evident. Perhaps its most enduring manifestation is the 1982 constitution, in effect written by the generals before they made way for the return of democracy a year later.
The constitution has now been considerably revised to help the EU accession process; the death penalty has been abolished and there is more individual freedom than there was even five years ago, as Turkey attempts to become more pluralistic. But the spirit of the military-inspired document still influences Turkish public life.
For some Turks, the coup saved their country from anarchy after a breakdown of political authority and law and order in the 1970s.
For much of the decade the country experienced what Andrew Mango, in a recent book on modern Turkey, calls a “low-intensity civil war” between left and right, communists and nationalists, that killed some 5,000 people.
There can be little doubt that the military had popular support in moving in to remove squabbling and ineffective politicians. “The political system had failed, and people were telling the army to do something,” says Seyfi Tashan, director of the Foreign Policy Institute at Bilkent University. The coup, he says, was “a necessary readjustment” to avoid chaos.
For others it brought the country’s democratic evolution to a brutal halt. The first act of the military government, led by Kenan Evren, chief of the general staff, was to drain the politics out of Turkish society.
It banned trade unions and independent foundations, purged the universities, and jailed thousands of people.
The purging of political activism led to what Orhan Silier, chairman of the History Foundation in Istanbul, calls “a fear of political engagement” among Turks that for years allowed the military and successive governments to act as they pleased. Rampant corruption and widespread human rights abuses were among the results, and still affect the way Turkey is perceived abroad.
The most important consequence of this de-politicisation of society may have been the neutering of radical political Islam in Turkey. The coup crushed the movement that was then becoming a force in Turkish politics.
Members of Turkey’s current, neo-Islamist government have spoken of how repeated setbacks in the 1980s and 1990s convinced them that they had to work within the Turkish system, not against it.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the moderate prime minister who will represent Turkey when its EU accession process gets under way next month, is the manifestation of that compromise.
Turkey’s military remains a formidable institution, secretive, disciplined and trusted by the people. Its role in politics remains enigmatic.
It is increasingly being confined to barracks by the politicians and last year a civilian was appointed to run the body that liaises between the politicians and the generals. The high command is remarkably pro-EU.
But the army has a position in Turkish society that is unique in Europe.
“The army here is like the referee at a football match, ensuring that everybody plays by the rules,” Mr Tashan says.
“I’m not sure whether 1980 created the conditions whereby it won’t have to interfere again, but it created a precedent of ‘enough is enough’ for the politicians so that hopefully we won’t see it happen again. Turks love their democracy.”
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20th September 2005, 16:16
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EU Reaches Deal on Turkey-Cyprus Rift....
Two weeks before accession talks with Turkey are set to start, Brussels reached a diplomatic breakthrough on Ankara's refusal to recognize EU member state Cyprus.
European Union ambassadors on Monday managed to agree on a draft declaration which tells Turkey to officially recognize Cyprus as a state before it can join the bloc. The deal removes a key hurdle ahead of the start of accession talks with Turkey on Oct. 3.
"The way for accession talks should be cleared in time," said a spokesman for the British EU-presidency.
This so called "counter-declaration" was necessary because Turkey issued its own declaration in July stating that it had no immediate intention of establishing diplomatic relations with the internationally recognized Greek Cypriot government.
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20th September 2005, 16:52
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Non Active Mmember
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Re: Turkey EU Dreams.... Doubts Raised v Hopes Mounting....
Do you think Turkey will recognise Greece now that it's been more or less told it has to before even entering talks?
Anna
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