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Old 30th December 2015, 16:45   #1 (permalink)
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Mosques – just curious

We have a mosque close by us here in Trabzon which issues the usual call to prayers.

I had always assumed that this was done by a CD recording and some kind of a timer arrangement.

But our friend tells us that it is actually a physical caller using a microphone & speakers.

Is this the same everywhere does anyone know?

At least an improvement from when the caller had to climb to the top of the spire and shout – I wouldn’t have thought he would have had any breath left after that climb

I’m also curious as to where the mosques get their finance.

Do they pass a plate around during prayers? Do they receive government funding? Or do Muslims tithe part of their income?
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Old 30th December 2015, 17:00   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Mosques – just curious

When we stay in Koygegiz we like to settle into the wee café in the main square while the Muezzin appears on the street with his microphone, he opens a hatch at the bottom of the minaret, plugs in then calls to the faithful, no theatre, or drama just everyday life in Koygegiz.
One of my simple pleasurable memories of Turkey, will be back soon for more.

Oh yes, Jacey, I think all Muezzins are employed by the state, and I think the mosques are also state property.
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Old 30th December 2015, 17:09   #3 (permalink)
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It's all done live, mosques are funded by the government, Imams are state employees and Imam hatips are schools which initially train them (although there are 500,000 Imam hatip student girls...I have no idea what for).

People also donate to mosques, a friend of mines grandmother gave her mosque 10,000tl. Enough to home a family of 4 for a year but she felt the mosque needed it.
In the past 13 years the government has built 17,000 new mosques and is currently building the largest mosque in Turkey on Camlica hill in Istanbul. (so it's seen from every corner of the city).

What do people want from Turkey?s top religious body? - ÖZGÜR KORKMAZ

The Diyanet is one of the country’s biggest state institutions, overseeing around 90,000 mosques and over 142,000 personnel. The institution’s budget has significantly increased under the AKP governments since 2002, going from a budget of 553 million liras in 2002 ($335 million) to 5.7 billion liras ($2.14 billion) in 2015, amid promises to hire 8,000 new personnel. The 2015 budget of the Diyanet is equal to the budgets of the Foreign Ministry, the Energy Ministry and the Culture and Tourism Ministry combined.

One might ask if Turkey needs 90,000 mosques when there is an apparent need for more schools and hospitals, and if you do, Diyanet chair Mehmet Görmez, Turkey’s top religious official, is ready to answer.
“It is not right to compare the number of mosques with the number of schools and hospitals,” Görmez said in March 2013. “Everybody in this country is a mümin [believer in Islam], but not everybody is sick. That is an incorrect comparison.”




ABDULLAH BOZKURT - Erdo?an?s mosque-building frenzy


Turkey: 17,000 new mosques built under Erdogan - General news - ANSAMed.it

Also, last year the AKP set up an international mosque building initiative and is building mosques abroad (and paying Imams wages abroad).

Turkey Launches International Mosque-Building Program

On the other hand, a woman who complained about the mosque speaker system in a northern Cyprus village recently (for the early morning call to prayer) won her case in court and now that call must be made without amplification.

A couple of years ago a correspondent I know wrote an article about how the call to prayers are becoming louder, intentionally.


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Thank you everybody, very informative & thought provoking.
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Re: Mosques – just curious

Yes Mollag, we have also enjoyed the call from the little cafe next to the mosque in Koygegiz.
A couple of years ago in Datca the call was linked into the speaker system and once left on by mistake on a Friday morning. We were treated to the whole service from the comfort of the garden! Friends who have travelled to Indonesia say that all services are on public broadcast and start at 4.30am. No peace for the wicked!
I don't think it's live everywhere. Some years ago 2 lads sneaked into a mosque in Marmaris and swapped the call for a Rolling Stones tape. The world woke to Satisfaction (for a change). My work colleague was there at the time on holiday.
The lads apparently got 9 months each in jail.


There has to be a joke there somewhere. . .
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Re: Mosques – just curious

I like to hear the mosque call at about 5.00 ish in the morning as I am a bad sleeper and I think, thank God it's almost time for me to get up. In Akbuk the call is definitely recorded because we wait for the click click of the finished tape.
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Re: Mosques – just curious

For those who are incapable or unwilling to improve, the authorities have another solution. The second category connects the mosque loud hailer system into a broadcast network with a centrally recorded rendition.

Muslim preachers given call-to-prayer singing lessons - Telegraph


It's supposed to be conducted live, in our village it's live (and not very good) I think I'd prefer the recorded version.

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At Kuyucak ( Tuzla ) we have a small Island opposite the site , the resident is connected to the Kilic organisation , he broadcasts the radio signalling the call to prayers for his fishing boats.

Now he has turned it down it is not too bad.

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All live here - we are treated to the phlegmy cough before and after. You can almost see the colour of what he coughs up.
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It’s all been most interesting and informative.

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