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Old 22nd June 2005, 18:45   #1
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Turkish property in your Pension fund?

I have been reading about the new pension rules that are suppose to be coming into force from next tax year, which will enable people to buy residential property, e.g. investment property, holiday homes, etc., with a personal pension.

Property purchased in this way would not be subject to capital gains tax or tax on rental income.

Here is a brief summary of the rules:

Half the pension fund value can be used for that purchase.

Contributions are currently limited to a proportion of earnings.

From April 2006 pension contributions can be 100% of earnings up to a maximum £215,000 and a lifetime limit of £1.5 million.

I gather that this is still not finalised but to me seems like a great idea and should really help people to escape the retirement trap in this country, as it's becoming more difficult to live as a retired person.
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Old 22nd June 2005, 19:00   #2
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Mustaq,

This was in the newspapers more than a year ago now, I telephoned an adviser but the rules were not clear................................

For the first time, you will be able to include property investments in your pension portfolio - something that will bring a sparkle to the eyes of anyone planning to buy a holiday home abroad or who invests in buy-to-let properties.

You will even be able to borrow to buy the property, provided you are able to invest twice what you borrow from your own resources. And you can claim tax relief on the lot.

It will work like this. You invest £100,000 pounds into a self-invested personal pension (Sipp), perhaps over a few years, or in one go, by switching existing pension savings into the plan. This attracts all the usual tax reliefs. You can then borrow £50,000 and buy that dream villa for £150,000. If you rent it out, there will be no income tax - and no capital gains tax to pay when you sell.

People in company schemes will be allowed to open a self-invested pension as well. Similarly, if you already own a property, that can be switched into your Sipp. Bear in mind that the plan will be buying the property from you, so it must hold sufficient funds to do so. However, it will be possible to switch in this money on the same day.

A property-based fund will be subject to normal pension rules, including the requirement to buy an annuity by the age of 75 with at least 75 per cent of the fund.

According to Stewart Ritchie, the pensions director at Aegon: "The Government knows it is failing to encourage people to save. But it is also aware of Britain's love affair with property. So I suppose their thinking is: if we can't get people to buy a pension, let's try getting them to buy a house."

Along with other commentators, Ritchie is concerned about the dangers of encouraging the workforce to put all its eggs in one basket by making it easier to hold almost all their wealth in property.

Scott Moore of BDO Stoy Hayward says: "On the face of it, the opportunity to invest £200,000 in residential property and receive tax relief of £80,000 is immediately appealing. However, property prices are believed to be inflated in many areas of the UK. An investor who has lost money on shares over the past three years' markets could find themselves switching into property at exactly the wrong moment."

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Old 22nd June 2005, 19:06   #3
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I think it's a great idea, especially bearing in mind the performance of normal pension funds recently. If you look at property growth anywhere in the U.K. over a 5 year period, the increase is much better than any pension fund I've ever seen. There is, of course, higher equity growth here in Turkey and property abroad can be included in your portfolio. Soon your pension fund can really give you a good retirement
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Old 22nd June 2005, 19:44   #4
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Beware,

I think the assett ( your house ) belongs to your pension fund and when your reach the point where you wish to retire, then the house plus any accumulated money held in the pension will be used to buy your annuity.

It's still not clear

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Old 22nd June 2005, 19:46   #5
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I think it should get clearer around November when they start to finalise the budget?
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Old 23rd June 2005, 02:29   #6
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Hi,

On the face of it things look good but beware! Tricia says to compare property growth over a five year period with a pension fund - well try that one for say 1989 - 94 and you would see many people had negative equity in their homes whilst pension funds were doing pretty good.

Like any investment the crunch will come when you want to realise your gains or in this case, retire. If the housing market is depressed you might not get as much as you hoped for or even worse might not be able to sell for a long time.

Remember (and this is a Financial Adviser speaking) Reward and Risk go together. More Reward usually means more Risk.

Having said that I'm sure the new rules will enable many people to re-assess their retirement planning and they will be able to have a much more balanced portfolio than they might have at present.

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Old 4th July 2005, 16:04   #7
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New legislation being brought in on 6th April that revolutionises what can be done with your pension. No longer will you be restricted to buying an annuity -

Sam Dunn asks if new incentives to encourage us to save more will head off Britain's looming pension crisis

Any light that pierces the gloom enveloping the distant horizon of our pension provision is desperately needed.…But soon we should be able to see more clearly. The first shaft of light should penetrate the clouds in the autumn when Adair Turner, chairman of the Pensions Commission, reports back with recommendations likely to include higher taxes, a later retirement age or more generous savings incentives.

The second is A-Day, 6 April 2006 - the date of a radical revamp of pension rules…From 6 April next year, … savers opting for a self-invested personal pension (Sipp) will be able to use it to invest in residential property - whether a buy-to-let, a holiday home or even their own house.

In the latter case, details have yet to be finalised, but Tom McPhail, pensions specialist at independent financial adviser Hargreaves Lansdown, says it might work like this.

An individual with a sizeable pension pot (say, £400,000), but who plans to work for another 10 years, cashes it in to buy a house. He then pays rent to live there and the money feeds back into his very own Sipp scheme, increasing the value of it tax-free for as long as he's resident. When he's ready to retire, the property can be sold for cash that in turn buys a smaller home and an annuity.… It is anticipated that properties inside the fund will be free of tax on rental income and capital gains and would also be immune from inheritance tax after 75 as they remain part of the pension fund, making this a very appealing option indeed.

Additionally the amount available to borrow to purchase for this purpose will be up to 50% of the fund.

John Howell, senior partner at solicitors John Howell and Co, cautioned: "If SIPPs investment is done properly then it has great potential. The tax breaks are fantastic and it is a huge opportunity to use existing funds to buy residential and overseas property.”

Additional changes in the legislation mean that anyone will be able to make contributions to a UK pension scheme, regardless of where or for how long they are resident. This means that UK expats … will be able to continue to contribute to their UK pensions.

Company directors and business owners can also benefit from the changes, Under current rules business owners who have not used up their pension allowance in previous tax years can make extra contributions to an executive pension plan (EPP).

Suppose you started a company in 1986, but haven't made any contributions. By setting up an EPP now you can claim years of service right back to 1986. This entitles you to generous levels of tax-free cash, provided the contributions are made before A-Day.

Current rules allow the whole value of an EPP to be paid tax-free as long as the value of the fund is less than three-tenths of final pay, multiplied by the number of years worked.

So if you have 20 years of service and earn £100,000 in the year before retirement, you can take £75,000 tax-free.

Adrian Boulding of Legal & General, said: “Provided this amount of contribution has been made to an EPP before A-Day, the tax-free cash entitlement can be preserved under the new regime.

“For many business owners this is too good an opportunity to pass up.”

Laura



Sources:

A-Day Reform to UK Pensions Allows Investment in Residential Property: The Independent Online Edition, 1st May 2005; www.taxationweb.co.uk; www.myfinances.co.uk; Get Ready For Pensions A-Day: Times Online, 22nd May 2005
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