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12th May 2008, 16:18
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Re: Bad News for Bodrum ?
I don't want to appear as a supporter of high rise buildings and would hate the idea of Bodrum becoming a Benidorm in any way, shape or form, but if the Minister in charge of Tourism has allowed this idea, then it is because they perceive an increase in Tourism and see a need for such buildings (Hotels) and their capacity.
If the Tourism minister is wrong and eventually the buildings lie empty, he will no doubt be condemned by everyone, but in the first instance he obviously is optimistic.
Only time will tell whether the decision was right or wrong but if he is right and numbers were to increase sufficiently to fill those places, the increase in Tourism would be greeted by the Turkish business community, the greater influx of tourists would assist the local economy and there would be a greater need for MORE FLIGHTS to Bodrum, not all of course from the UK.
With all this in mind, if the minister is correct in his assessment, it is true that the charm and landline that is currently Bodrum would change, but if you were 'Jonny Turk' wanting to work within the construction, hotel or hospitality sector, you would not disagree with the decision, and for that reason whilst I always support the initiative of making your respective views known, I think it will ultimately be futile as they will not take any notice from us Brits- why should they ?
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12th May 2008, 16:36
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Re: Bad News for Bodrum ?
Hi Mushroom,
Thanks for the comments. I don't think anyone objects to furthering tourism, as it brings many tied or mutual benefits to the area. The concern is about innapropriate development and this isn't the exclusive concern of holiday brits. As you can see from the TDN article concerns are being raised by Tourism and Hotel bodies, as well as other local ( turkish) groups.
I am also heartened by the end comments that in recent court cases, successes have been achived in preventing planning permission and development of "innapropriate" projects.
By motivating people to object to questionable developments, we have real prospects of continued success. The effects on the area will span all groups, and media focus on the issue can change matters greatly. There is all to play for here ! A central government policy can be interpreted very differently in each case.
I have no objections whatsoever to a well thought out huge hotel - in the right place. Just not everywhere over the region !
MR TURKEY
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12th May 2008, 22:55
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Senior Member
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Re: Bad News for Bodrum ?
I would feel sorry for the folk who bought with sea views only to loose them like all the homes on the hills which tho far from the harbour have nice views over Bodrum. Having said that we have little right to say what the turkish build in their own country and maybe buy building higher they will leave more green recreation land and parks. It could work but I wonder if it will or if they will just go over the top?
Paul
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13th May 2008, 01:35
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Re: Bad News for Bodrum ?
It is a real shame if Bodrum becomes just another town like every other with ugly high-rises. It has always been special because of it's white-washed 'sugar-cube' houses and it was quite an important factor in our decision to buy there. Whatever next - those awful coloured 5 storeys that seem to defy gravity staying up?
It is shocking that the suits from Ankara who more than likely live in coloured high rises are allowed to inflict their bad taste on this area when the local authorities are desperate to preserve it's individuality.
Ah well there's always Greece...
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13th May 2008, 03:09
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Member
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Re: Bad News for Bodrum ?
There is already a five storey hotel in Gulluk.
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13th May 2008, 04:25
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Re: Bad News for Bodrum ?
As ever, NIMBYism writ large. Whenever a development may spoil their rose tinted view of what Turkey should be, out come the complainers in an attempt to preserve their holiday investment.
Nothing wrong with trying to preserve your idyll, but don't dress it up as anything else.
The usual arguments are passed around - better elsewhere; too much for this location; the locals don't want it (and, selflessly, we are supporting them as the poor dears don't know how to complain like us Brits); environmentally damaging etc. etc. Nobody is fooled.
Ian
Last edited by immac : 13th May 2008 at 05:12.
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13th May 2008, 07:41
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Steve
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Re: Bad News for Bodrum ?
The authorities can do as they please in regard to Hi Rise in Bodrum, subject to
the will of the Turkish Courts. I doubt anything can be done to affect their intentions, too many vested interests. The one thing Bodrum cannot accomodate currently is much more traffic. In march this year, there were traffic jams all over the place. Last july, a smog hung over Bodrum, immediately noticeable as you drove into town.
Kyrenia in Norhtern cyprus is now grid locked for hours on end, we loved the TRNC, however due to traffic problems no longer go. It stopped us from buying there.
High rise in Bodrum will i believe road block the town.
The same will happen to Bodrum, as as happened in Kyrenia.
Hope ( selfishly ) it doesn't happen.
Regards, Steve.
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14th May 2008, 09:05
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Senior Member
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Re: Bad News for Bodrum ?
Clearly I have a differing perspective on this, and make no apology for it, nor do I need permission from anyone for such a stance.
I have little confidence in developers sensitivity to anything but profit. I am quite happy for development - but in keeping with the area. I fail to see how anyone is being fooled.... bit baffled by that one. As for objections I would guess that locals are the greatest objectors, as this seems to be the case.
The latest example of developer insensitivity is on this link. It's just a waste to throw away such history.
This to me illustrates why plans should subject to comment and public examination. At the end the courts will decide, which is as it should be, but give all an appropriate voice.
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/...?enewsid=104311
MR TURKEY
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14th May 2008, 09:58
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Re: Bad News for Bodrum ?
Terry S
There are a few hotels in Gulluk of a certain height but they don't get a mention as it appears Bodrum is the target of the protest.
Mr Turkey
As for the protesters, well if they are full time local residents or local business people, they have quite rightly got their say in such matters. If they are Brits, they can make whatever noises they want but they will be ignored, just as we would ignore a non-domiciled Turk who didn't like some aspect of our planning system in the UK !
I sympathise with your stance and your cause, but I don't think it will change a thing.
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14th May 2008, 12:15
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Re: Bad News for Bodrum ?
Hello Mushroom,
Thanks for the comments - you are possibly right and it might not achieve much, but I reckon its worth a go. Its not just Bodrum its the Bodrum "region". Much of Bodrum is already developed, spaces are further afield, ( yali, turgutreis etc ).
Just good to make people aware and the tourist lira can hold a lot of sway........
MR TURKEY.
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