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Old 16th May 2008, 09:33   #31
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Re: Bad News for Bodrum ?

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If you want to make your views on Bodrum development known, why not visit the Investate event in Bodrum on the weekend of May 24 and 25, and make your views known during the question and answer sessions of one of the speakers. The Mayor, Jeff Kami, owner of Yalikavak Marina, and a few others with vested interests will be speaking about planning issues. This is a good opportunity for the views of local foreign home owners to be known, and support many local Turks with similiar views, for otherwise the views of rampant and opportunistic developers, estate agents, and others interested only in short term profits, receive of all the coverage, and succeed in creating the false impression that everyone is in favour of more development, which is definitely not the case. There are many architechts and locals opposed to such irresponsible development, and the support of local foreign home owners would no doubt be greatly appreciated.

The link for the event is http://www.investate.com.tr/en/.



Hi Darren,

Following on from your email, I have whizzed messages all over the place. I cant claim this as the sole reason for it, but happily this has now been picked up by Turkish daily news and also the bodrum observer.

Getting people into the loop and raising the profile wont hurt. See the article here http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/...?enewsid=104602

This is about the Bodrum area, ( not just Bodrum ) but this conference will have a bearing on coastal tourism development for much of Turkey.

Many thanks for letting people know.

MR TURKEY

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Old 16th May 2008, 11:07   #32
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To be honest Immac I could not give a s**t what this does to my investment. I love Bodrum. We looked at other areas but there is something special about here. The Turks feel the same way and it is a magnet for Turkish holiday makers. My Turkish nephew came for the first time a couple of years ago and was blown away by his first glimpse of the town. He had never seen anything like it. Nothing selfish about wanting it to retain it's character.
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Old 21st May 2008, 09:16   #33
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Short term greed and opportunism create unfortunate outcomes for all but a select few. Sharp practices undermine trust and credibility. Mindless construction defaces the environment. Corruption and subverted planning directives create economic development waste. There is a word for such actions - "irresponsible".

Wherever you look in Bodrum you see examples of how some simple opportunistic little development for $10-20 million has defaced the environment and devalued the much larger adjacent development potential of literally $200-400 million. Yalikavak is a prime example of this- poor planning and implementation has resulted in a total development capital valuation perhaps only 25%, ie 1/4, of the potential achievable with better land use and urban management. This is a great loss to all stakeholders concerned- the foreign residents, local business, the local population, the local government, and central government revenue finances. As usual these losses stem from short term opportunisim- perpetrated by small businessmen usually in cahoots with government officials- local or central.

A few short years ago several local councillors were run up the yardarms for their role in such scams. At the time central government in Ankara appeared to be something of a saving grace, to prosecute these lot. Now however, much of the central planning in Bodrum appears (???) to be moving into the hands of Ankara central government. This is unfortunate considering certain revelations about central government vested interests on the sales of forestry land reserves around Bodrum, about certain relatives of government ministers that have land plots in Bodrum that they paid too much for and couldnt develop profitably, and now the extension of building height restrictions which would make building on those plots profitable.

The present governing party came into power on an anti-corruption and anti-sleaze platform, laudibly executed. Some years later, and Bodrum residents are as wary as ever of outsiders who would usurp the stewardship of their here-to-fore pristine environment of tranquil fishing inlets and lime tree hillsides, and their safe harbour refuge for alternative intelligentsia.


Any foreign residents that object to irresponsible development are welcome to express their views, and join other elements of Bodrum society who mourn the destruction of all those delicate cultutral and environmental attribiutes that make Bodrum valuable. Irresponsible development threatens the very destructiuon of that which it seeks to profit from.

This is not rocket science- no one needs a Phd in land management to appreciate these facts- re-reading the lessons of Spain over the preceding 30 years repeatedly isnt the solution. We're back to basics here - basic education - grounded in fundamental values and ethics.

Make your voices heard - these are the details of the meeting- you can PM me with your email and I will forward the details and a letter:

INVESTATE
Turkish Coast real Estate Investment Meeting
Princess Otel, Turkbuku
24-25 May
www.investate.com.tr
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Old 21st May 2008, 09:26   #34
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I am saddened by all that is going on in Bodrum, and future plans. It is a shame.....

The bodrum I came to in 1973 or 74 bears little resemblance to the Bodrum of today, and it appears to only get worse and worse......

bottom line is GREED.................................

you dont need a PhD to figure that one out.......
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Old 21st May 2008, 10:14   #35
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hi pebbles i to remember it then .as you say not the same and gambit is now unrecognisable. when i go back to england i will post bodrum 1974 pictures debs
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Old 14th July 2008, 08:50   #36
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Just to give an update on this story, I have provided a link to Issue 58 of the Bodrum Observer whose front page carries an article entitled 'A Reprieve for Bodrum' .

http://www.bodrumobserver.com/OBSERVER-58.pdf


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Old 14th July 2008, 09:08   #37
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Just to give an update on this story, I have provided a link to Issue 58 of the Bodrum Observer whose front page carries an article entitled 'A Reprieve for Bodrum' .

http://www.bodrumobserver.com/OBSERVER-58.pdf


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Oh dear. Sounds like its possible some people may not get that little extra in thier back pocket after all.
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