heidi

Phil I wish you luck and in no way are we hoping to stop your business in anyway. If you are doing the installation correctly and to the right specification then I wish I had used you for my customers instead. Good Luck in your business venture and I really mean that.
Our anger is of course directed to the other Phil who has let us down and lied yet again this week. If I were you I would change the name and distance my self from him.

moodyblues

Well said Terry, all businesses have problems from time to time but it is the way a company deals with these problems that sets them apart from the rest, a business ideal that we fully subscribe to - cock up, own up, correct the cock up asap !!!
Incidentally, I was offered my money back by Phil, an offer which I accepted some time ago but to date I cannot get the money from Phil

colmoor

good old phil offered me the opportunity of covering the fethiye to kalkan area. HE WAS EAGER TO CONTACT ME TO OFFER ME İT BUT HAS GONE QUİET SİNCE THE GUYS OBVİOUSLY TWO FACED LİKE SOME TURKS İ KNOW. all talk but no action justa s well he dont behave like back in the uk or he bee taken out in to the country for a ride and come back in plasters

marlyn

I want to add something some of you may or mayn not know, i have watched with interest this story and the system for damp proofing the reason being when we first bought in Kusadasi going round with diferent agents and seeing some properties in very poor condition i thought about this type of business.

From extensive investigation in to the several types of retro fit systems i can tell you there is not one system that will work, unless and this is the good bit the whole internal floor area and walls are injected or a treated properly, then you have the problem of the walls.

The Walls question why do uk and most north european properties have a cavity, answer bircks, blocks and cement all do one thing transmit water by osmosis (is the passage of water from a region of high water concentration through a semi-permeable membrane to a region of low water concentration) dry bricks etc suck up water known fact in the uk the problem is solved by a cavity, if you take out bricks from the wall inside or out the outer brick will be wet on the inside this is a fact.

The point of this is the injection system works fine but when the out side of a single brick wall gets damp the water is just sucked in so internal damp returns, yes you could unibond the outside walls but what about walls ajoining a neighbour you have to do all of them water can get sucked in any place and travle several metres before you see any damp patches.

I personally think the problem is not the system but the understanding of build materials and conditions our houses are in, all summer the brick and cement drys out so as soon as it rains Bang they are sucking up water.

All installers and suppliers of retro fit systems should make sure they understand what is actually happening with the properties and the system they install.

After all the investigation i did the most efective system will be an electrolysis system this information has been gathered from several manufacturers who i have personal sat with and discussed the problems we have here.

I am not in business i dont sell this system have no conections with anyone who does, would not even know if its available here. The above is only my opinion if its different from yours dont worry i wont mind lol

Mark

Harem

Now that this thread has been reopened I would like to know how long we have to wait for answers to the many questions posed to Mr Philip Robinson. It is painfully obvious that he has no intention of repaying money that he has, in effect, stolen from unsuspecting mugs, either by way of selling shares, franchises, or purely by doing a job which is no good and will never work. I personally feel that he has no intention of even attempting to put any of the matters to rights.

shirleyanntr

Hi Harem..i think that a new thread needs to be opened to give an update..enough time has elapsed to allow this man to give a decent answer on this forum...which was the reason the last thread was closed...he has now had some time in which to answer, and if its not updated on this in an open forum people involved will be put off from asking and nobody will know who has been cheated what the state of play is etc...this is an open forum..is it not??

Harem

I would hope that there is someone who is a member of the forum who can speak to Mr Robinson and prevail upon him to do the honourable thing. Maybe even the Administrator can do something along these lines if there is nobody else who can get in touch with him?

thurstan

Mark

I dont think this is factually correct. Clay bricks are porous, they are not a semi-permeable membrane

Also in the UK the traditional method of brick wall construction was the 9 inch wall (ie a brick and a half). Why? because it was in an area with only a little rain - ie not enough to pentrate all the way through. The other traditional method, found in areas of high rainfall was to build (again a solid wall) in stone because it is not porous.

You are right when you say "All installers and suppliers of retro fit systems should make sure they understand what is actually happening with the properties and the system they install It is crucial that you understand both the construction and the system proposed to cure the problem

in the UK the construction method is to lay a damp proof membrane across the floor and in the walls (usually 150 above outside ground level so its above the splash line from rainwater externally). The Turkish properties that are suffering from damp do not have those features.

For that reason a system of injecting a damp proof course in the walls should be a successful solution to the problem - and it is often done in UK houses that have solid walls as described above. This is characterised by a line of plugged holes around 150mm above ground level

So, why is this not working in Turkey? - maybe they are using the wrong system, or mabe its poor workmanship.

I have not seen details of this electrlysis sytem but would like to check it ot - could you provide a website?

that my two-pennyworth

Thurstan

kevin4faber

Hi Mark & Thurstan,

Interesting reading from both of you, if you get to bottom of this subject be sure to post the results. There are lots of us out here who would love the solution to the damp problem and you could end up making a few bob!!!

If you hadn't guessed my damp is back again this year and until this thread started I was going to contact No-Nem, but think I will put that on hold until you post the solution for us, PLEASE!!!!!

Kevin.