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Old 28th June 2013, 22:39   #31 (permalink)
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Re: 17 year old boy Stabbed in Marmaris

I saw 'murder' in a few posts, has the boy died as a result of his injuries? Last I read he was recovering?
My 2 cents...at the end of the day stabbing is wrong (to put it mildly) and no one deserves that kind of 'punishment', no matter what their regard for local custom/culture. I hope the boy is, as the news says, on the road to recovery and that the 2 in custody get what they deserve. I pray the girl who was involved does not suffer any kind of 'honour' retribution.
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If the report is true that this happened because he kissed a Turkish girl, then I feel it is now time for Travel Companies to enlighten visitors to Turkey about what is considered acceptable behaviour in Turkey. No way am I condoning what has been done to this young lad, but I do feel that a lot of visitors to Turkey are ignorant of the stricter moral code here.

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Val - stricter moral code ? Only when it suits. What is moral about carrying a weapon and using a knife? It is a twIsted moral code- very similar to the prison and criminal moral code in this instance.
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Re: 17 year old boy Stabbed in Marmaris

this term.. stricter moral code ...what does it mean

does it mean honour killing
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Re: 17 year old boy Stabbed in Marmaris

We do not know the full circumstances of what went on in this case but no young lad deserves this to happen, especially on his holidays.Those of us that know Turkey can understand what may have happened, but, come on wev'e all been young and foolish. Do the young barmen treat the foreign women with the same respect? I am afraid that the "veneere" ( can't spell) of civilization is still spread very thin in Turkey, scratch the surface and underneath lies a caveman
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Re: 17 year old boy Stabbed in Marmaris

Niamh, below is a report from Sky - it seems that he is on a slow road to recovery:

Turkey: Stabbed UK Teenager 'Recovering Well'


A British teenager left critically ill in Turkey after being stabbed repeatedly while on holiday with his family is recovering well, his aunt said.

Seventeen-year-old Dwayne Ward, from Middlesbrough, was discovered in a garden in the Tepe district of the popular holiday resort of Marmaris.

He was taken to hospital after reportedly being stabbed up to 20 times, and Mrs Ward said: "We have been told he is recovering well, thankfully."

Maramis state hospital, where he is being treated, said the teenager's condition was "stable" and he was out of intensive care.

It added: "He continues to be treated in a normal ward in our hospital. He is progressing well. It is not certain when the patient will be discharged."


The attack on the teenager happened in the Tepe district of Marmaris
Two men have been arrested over the attack.

Turkey Daily News said one of the suspects, a 31-year-old identified only as A.D., was held on charges of “looting, injuring intentionally and depriving of freedom".

Dwayne's school, Macmillan Academy in Middlesbrough, said staff and students were deeply saddened by the attack.

The academy said its thoughts and prayers were with him and it hoped he would make a full recovery.


Marmaris is a popular holiday resort
The Foreign Office said it was providing consular assistance.

Local residents reportedly spotted the teenager's bloody body lying in a garden at around 7.30am on Tuesday.

A doctor was said to have stabilised him at the scene before paramedics took him to hospital, where he was placed in the intensive care unit.

Dwayne was staying at the Ali Baba Hotel with his brother and mother while on holiday.

His mother said: "Dwayne's facing another operation this morning. His dad's flying out from the UK to be with him."
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Jamster, the stabbings you refer to are mostly committed by black/Asian youths who are in gangs !! Rarely British youths.
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Jamster, the stabbings you refer to are mostly committed by black/Asian youths who are in gangs !! Rarely British youths.
How do substantiate this "fact" then?
I think you will also find that the "black/Asian youths" you refer to ARE British youths....
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Charlotte, many tourists when they book a holiday to the sun, do not take into consideration what the religious beliefs of that country are. All they want is Blackpool with sunshine! I am not saying that this murder was driven by an Islamic mindset. I have felt for a long time that if people were more aware of the difference in cultures from their home country and their holiday destination then a lot of 'racist' behaviour from the host country would not arise. I must admit the first time I travelled to Turkey 25 years ago, I didn't take into account any cultural or religious differences, it was only as I became a more frequent visitor and then a resident that I took an interest.

You say that it has nothing to do with morals, but I read that the accused stated that his reason for this awful crime was that the young man kissed a Turkish girl.

My suggestion was that Travel Companies maybe should have a few paragraphs in their glossy brochures stating that there are cultural differences. My point has been proven in Dubai, where people have been arrested for shopping in the mall in swimwear and making out on the beach.

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Val,

I think the boy is obviously sick; his idea of morals should not be the yard stick for Turkey, or tourists.
Perhaps he was jealous, maybe the girl was a 'friend' of his, but I think it's dangerous to suggest that culture, or Turkey's religiously-inspired moral code, played any role in this. Even honour killers defend their crimes using such poor excuses, let's not play into their hands as it only justifies the crime.
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Not in my book Number 6. They are still Black/Asian!! I think you will find that most White Brit's think the same.
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speak for yourself not all white brits are bigots
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