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Old 4th September 2006, 21:32   #1
mjdell
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Question English Speaking Lawyers.. again !

Hello everyone

We are trying to buy a place in Akyaka at the moment and go out in a couple of weeks to hopefully purchase. Our dilemma is this.. we think we should get an english speaking lawyer but do question their value. We seem to be offered services ranging from £500-£2,000 from lawyers who are members of the bar but we don't know from adam. One of them was recommended by a British Consulate but we have since heard stiched up another buyer for over £2k. Lawyers in Turkey seem to be lightly regulated and there does seem to be no comeback on them if they poorly advise you. Has anyone had a GOOD .. or BAD.. experience with an English speaking lawyer in the Marmaris, or Mugla, area, then please let us know.

If you would rather PM then no problem and we will keep it confidential.

Thank you ! Emma, Mike, Ethan and Luca.
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Old 4th September 2006, 23:13   #2
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heres a thing you are a bit between a rock and a hard place as most lawyers here have very little conveyancing experience simply becasue most Turkish sales go through in 3 days flat and the Turks dont use lawyers, most go to a notar for a contract if they need one, the notars have more experience. The thing to do is get a very good contract written and if your not happy with whats in the contract dont sign it until you are happy. Then you need some one to do the building checks for correct planning etc etc and then check the property for debts etc. A lawyer will at most pick up the phone and ask the questions without physically checking (my experience) Also my experience the lawyers we use charge 200 euros but for that they merely check our contracts (that we write) cover the correct codes of Turkish law. then they plagerise them along with the translators if I had a 100 euros for everycontract thats been copied from mine I wouldnt need to sell houses.
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Old 5th September 2006, 00:25   #3
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Re: English Speaking Lawyers.. again !

We were taken for a ride to the tune of £2K by one on 'the list' so be careful. I think that one felt that because he was on a list he could charge and do what he liked. His suggestions were very dangerous.
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Old 7th September 2006, 11:16   #4
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Our english speaking lawyer in Marmaris charges 450 GB. To pay anything more than that is unnecessary and the lawyer and the developer/agent are taking a huge cut. I know of a lawyer who charges 900 GB and friends of ours currently have a court case involving his incompetence whilst he had power of attorney for their business.
If you would like our lawyer contact details please let me know.
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Old 3rd October 2006, 19:23   #5
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English speaking lawyers in Turkey.

Link at the bottom of this page.

This has been covered soooo many times.


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Old 9th October 2006, 15:52   #6
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Thank you for the informative and helpful response. I think if you read through all of the threads you indicated, as I did prior to posting my question, you'll find that its not actually answered in any of them.

The fact that this type of question is asked on a regular basis is indication that its something people are very interested in knowing. My understanding of the point of this forum was explicitly to allow those of you who have experience of life in Turkey to share it with those of us who don't, but are hoping to learn and benefit from that experience.

Private responses we received to my mail confirmed indications we had already been given from other sources concerning 1 specific lawyer, and cemented our desire not to use that individual. Our concerns were bourne out as we met another couple last week in Turkey who had also been researching such matters in these forums, but weren't lucky enough to be given that advice, and so found themselves significantly out of pocket to the lawyer who was not only charging them a fortune, but was also abusing the power of attorney and attempting to skim extra funds from the money passing through their hands on behalf of the clients.

So I'm sorry if asking this question bores you. I found the responses to it highly informative, and it exposed information which was not already available on the forum. I would recommend to anyone who is also going through the process to ask away, and not be concerned about what some people might consider dull and repetitive.
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Old 9th October 2006, 16:37   #7
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Thank you for the informative and helpful response. I think if you read through all of the threads you indicated, as I did prior to posting my question, you'll find that its not actually answered in any of them.

The fact that this type of question is asked on a regular basis is indication that its something people are very interested in knowing. My understanding of the point of this forum was explicitly to allow those of you who have experience of life in Turkey to share it with those of us who don't, but are hoping to learn and benefit from that experience.

Private responses we received to my mail confirmed indications we had already been given from other sources concerning 1 specific lawyer, and cemented our desire not to use that individual. Our concerns were bourne out as we met another couple last week in Turkey who had also been researching such matters in these forums, but weren't lucky enough to be given that advice, and so found themselves significantly out of pocket to the lawyer who was not only charging them a fortune, but was also abusing the power of attorney and attempting to skim extra funds from the money passing through their hands on behalf of the clients.

So I'm sorry if asking this question bores you. I found the responses to it highly informative, and it exposed information which was not already available on the forum. I would recommend to anyone who is also going through the process to ask away, and not be concerned about what some people might consider dull and repetitive.


If you had said in the first place that you had already looked at all the information on the forum in the relevent places then people would not have to say that the subject had been covered before. New members to the forum and the workings of a forum may not know where to look. So to pick on someone that was only trying to be of assitance seems rather pointless to me. Considering the postion he holds on this forum!
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Old 9th October 2006, 16:57   #8
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Thank you for the informative and helpful response. I think if you read through all of the threads you indicated, as I did prior to posting my question, you'll find that its not actually answered in any of them.

The fact that this type of question is asked on a regular basis is indication that its something people are very interested in knowing. My understanding of the point of this forum was explicitly to allow those of you who have experience of life in Turkey to share it with those of us who don't, but are hoping to learn and benefit from that experience.

Private responses we received to my mail confirmed indications we had already been given from other sources concerning 1 specific lawyer, and cemented our desire not to use that individual. Our concerns were bourne out as we met another couple last week in Turkey who had also been researching such matters in these forums, but weren't lucky enough to be given that advice, and so found themselves significantly out of pocket to the lawyer who was not only charging them a fortune, but was also abusing the power of attorney and attempting to skim extra funds from the money passing through their hands on behalf of the clients.

So I'm sorry if asking this question bores you. I found the responses to it highly informative, and it exposed information which was not already available on the forum. I would recommend to anyone who is also going through the process to ask away, and not be concerned about what some people might consider dull and repetitive.


As already said if you indicated you had already explored the forum search facility and it wasn't covered then you would have had a different response. Its also not a question of boring anyone but of making these forums run a lot more efficiently so please don't take an attitude with somone giving up a lot of their time to do this.
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Old 9th October 2006, 18:33   #9
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Mjdell, it's been over a month since your 1st post, and it appears you have been busy getting more information, so why not share what you have learnt so far?
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Old 9th October 2006, 19:10   #10
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I have a strong suspision that the '1 specific lawyer' mentioned in the post by mjdell is the one I used. I have received a PM from someone who also had unfortunate dealings with him. He is on the embassy list on their web site although they cover themselves by saying they can't be held responsible. However I did send them an e mail detailing my concerns about this lawyer. If everyone who feels they have been conned by him wrote they might just notice! Just be very careful before using this list.
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