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View Poll Results: Has the Tapu suspension made you reconsider your involvement with Turkey?
I now want to sell my property as fast as I can! 12 8.45%
I'm not selling my property and don't plan to. 73 51.41%
It has made no difference to me at all! 37 26.06%
I was going to buy property and still plan to once the suspension is lifted 4 2.82%
I wasn't going to buy a property so it makes no difference to me. 2 1.41%
I was going to buy a property but these problems have put me off the idea. 5 3.52%
I have or plan to sign a sales contract to buy a property even though the suspension is in effect. 9 6.34%
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Old 3rd July 2008, 08:50   #31
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Re: Has the Tapu suspension made you reconsider your involvement with Turkey?

Hi Paul,

Not a rumour about the military search - This is the latest update I have (posted yesterday on another thread incase you missed it). An no, the military are not performing searches at the moment.

"About 2 weeks ago a decision had been made and part of the new criteria was to put an end to the army search so foreigners could get their TAPU on the same day. However, the army objected to that (who can blame them) so its back to parliment again and is being estimated another 2 weeks but.... this is Turkey so who knows!

Some other stuff going on with Akparty (I dont do politics in any country so dont ask me!) which is keeping parliment very busy and apparently they and the courts have no holidays this year. All hoping that this doesnt take up all their time and the TAPU issue is not put to one side!!"
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Old 3rd July 2008, 11:50   #32
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Hi Paul,

Not a rumour about the military search - This is the latest update I have (posted yesterday on another thread incase you missed it). An no, the military are not performing searches at the moment.

"About 2 weeks ago a decision had been made and part of the new criteria was to put an end to the army search so foreigners could get their TAPU on the same day. However, the army objected to that (who can blame them) so its back to parliment again and is being estimated another 2 weeks but.... this is Turkey so who knows!


Hi Kym,

That would be great news if it is all approved!

The seller of the apartment we would like to buy is patiently waiting for the changes to take effect so we can proceed (we havent exchanged any money or contracts) but the emlak dealing with it still keep hinting that contracts can be signed now while we wait for the military checks are carried out.

Thankfully, because of the good people here at TLF, I know better and wont entertain the idea until I am 100% happy that I can achieve a full and proper sale, ie, the legal documents can be put into my name.

This particular company comes highly recommended and its one of the well known companies in Altinkum, so I just dont understand why they would even consider trying to engage in a sale with a foreign buyer at this stage.
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Old 17th July 2008, 13:18   #33
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Bob,
The restrictions have only recently been put in place so how can you say many do have problems because of ?
As far as guidelines and restrictions are concerned the only restriction i've heard of that will come out of this will be that foreigners cannot buy more than 10% of the region. I think i'll be safe.
Does anyone know of any other possible restrictions or laws that may arise from the ongoing discussions surrounding the TAPU suspensions ?


Yes, Sorry, your correct.

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Old 31st July 2008, 20:46   #34
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I now want to sell my property as fast as I can!
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Old 1st August 2008, 05:53   #35
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I now want to sell my property as fast as I can!


Because of the suspension ?
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Old 2nd August 2008, 10:23   #36
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Fundamentaly Yes. This is not the first suspension of sales to foreigners. I have been here for five years and the Law has changed twice. Unfortunately in Turkey the new law(s) are applied retrospectively, adversely affecting some owners of legally purchased land and property. I do not think Turkey offers any security of tenure for a Foreign owner of land or property.
We are not all equal under the law in this respect. As I understand it Turkey is a signatory to the EU Human Rights Charter however the EU has accepted the right for the Turkish Government to ' deprive ownership of any land or property owned by a foreigner where it is in the the National interest. Also the EU have accepted that Turkish laws pertaining to ownership of land and property 'may be different between Foreign Nationals and Turkish Citizens'.
So whether you are the owner of a Legal TAPU and Habitation Certificate or not it really does not matter. No doubt the law relating to Foreign Nationals owning property will continue to develop, at any time the law can change.
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Old 2nd August 2008, 13:05   #37
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Interesting point of view Roly and i would certainly bow to your superior knowledge and experience but i just dont see the Turkish authorities suddenly pulling the rug from under any foreign home owners feet. TAPU or no TAPU
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Old 2nd August 2008, 18:06   #38
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Good point Roly. I would feel more secure if our rights were the same as Turkish citizens in the homeowner legalities. I too have experienced the two suspensions and know some people have waited four years and have found this to be most stressful.
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Old 3rd August 2008, 02:31   #39
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Roly I suggest you would do well to obtain better professional advice as your fears in certain respects not based on an accurate assessment of the law and in other respects derive not from the law but in the manner transactions have been executed.
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Old 3rd August 2008, 03:19   #40
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Darren, Thankyou for your reply. I quote the salient points from an article published in the Dalyan Times Property Pages which gives chapter and verse on Article 16 of the Constitution concerning the status of foriegners. Perhaps you would advise whether I have mis-understood this.
Obviously it would not be in Turkeys interest to nationalise every foreigners home, however the Turkish Goverment government retains that right. In many ways I admire Turkeys stance on these matters, protection of the Nation State, its people and culture. It is a pity that the Uk goverment has not taken a leaf out of Turkeys book.
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