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Old 28th December 2012, 14:42   #1 (permalink)
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BBC News - Norman Schwarzkopf, retired US general, dies aged 78



Whatever anybody thinks of the USA and it's army, this was a good and honest soldier who dedicated over 30 years of his life to the US army.
Although he was apparently not the easiest person to get along with,he did command great respect from all who worked alongside him. My condolences to his family and friends.

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Read it back to yourself and you will see your write up could exactly fit any war criminal general from any army of any era
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Old 28th December 2012, 15:47   #3 (permalink)
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He got my attention when he made the comment: "Going to war without the French is like going deer hunting without your accordion."

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BBC News - Norman Schwarzkopf, retired US general, dies aged 78



Whatever anybody thinks of the USA and it's army, this was a good and honest soldier who dedicated over 30 years of his life to the US army.
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That's as maybe,he's still responsible for the unnecessary loss of thousands of lives. There's nothing good, or honest, about war, no matter who's army the soldier serves.
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Brilliant leader - I'm sorry to see him pass on.

Actually Freedom 49 - he wasn't responsible for any unnecessary loss of life, he was only carrying out orders, wherever they came from. No wonder he didn't want to be a politician.

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- he wasn't responsible for any unnecessary loss of life, he was only carrying out orders, wherever they came from. .

Now where have we heard that before.......
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Brilliant leader - I'm sorry to see him pass on.

Actually Freedom 49 - he wasn't responsible for any unnecessary loss of life, he was only carrying out orders, wherever they came from. No wonder he didn't want to be a politician.

Condolences to his family and friends.


Thanks tjd, not too sure about the only carrying out orders bit, but certainly nice to see that some folk are thoughtful enough to pass on condolences to the family and friends. He was certainly far too decent a person to be a politician.

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Actually Freedom 49 - he wasn't responsible for any unnecessary loss of life, he was only carrying out orders, wherever they came from. No wonder he didn't want to be a politician.

Condolences to his family and friends.
This man was groomed for the army and nothing else.
He graduated from Military Academy, taking his special field study in 'Guided Missile Engineering'. From there he went on to U.S. Army War College.

He was a Captain when he went to the Vietnam War and came out as a Major.
He certainly risked his own life for his own men, what about about the 1000's that were sent home in body bags? Just what good came out of Vietnam?

He quickly rose through the ranks after Vietnam, making Major General by the early 80's, remember Grenada? He was of course General when he figured in the Gulf War before his retirement.

You point out that he never wanted to be a politician.
Maybe not. However, he was a very active supporter of George W. Bush, openly preaching that he was the President to beat terrorism!

George W.Bush, terrorism, I guess that's another story altogether?

Stormin' Norman may have been very good at what he was trained to do, as you say, 'Acting under orders.'

I don't think he knew any different and he supposedly had a very high I.Q.

Maybe I've seen too many casualties of war during my lifetime? I find myself unable to hold ANY of the warmongers in high esteem.

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Depends on which side of the page you want to look at it from, doesn't it? All soldiers carry out orders, even if they come directly from the Whitehouse.
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This man was groomed for the army and nothing else.
He graduated from Military Academy, taking his special field study in 'Guided Missile Engineering'. From there he went on to U.S. Army War College.

He was a Captain when he went to the Vietnam War and came out as a Major.
He certainly risked his own life for his own men, what about about the 1000's that were sent home in body bags? Just what good came out of Vietnam?

He quickly rose through the ranks after Vietnam, making Major General by the early 80's, remember Grenada? He was of course General when he figured in the Gulf War before his retirement.

You point out that he never wanted to be a politician.
Maybe not. However, he was a very active supporter of George W. Bush, openly preaching that he was the President to beat terrorism!

George W.Bush, terrorism, I guess that's another story altogether?

Stormin' Norman may have been very good at what he was trained to do, as you say, 'Acting under orders.'

I don't think he knew any different and he supposedly had a very high I.Q.

Maybe I've seen too many casualties of war during my lifetime? I find myself unable to hold ANY of the warmongers in high esteem.

Give me the peacemakers, every time.
Yes - he had a great Army career.
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