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Old 26th November 2018, 22:52   #11971 (permalink)
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Mr. Jaycey, perhaps you could update us on whether martial law has now been imposed by Poroshenko? The cynical among us might suggest that is what he was aiming for as I believe he is currently trailing in the polls.

Exactly why Ukraine would send small gunboats and an armed tug through to Mariupol is practically inexplicable.

Meanwhile, an alternative view.

Video 1.

⚡ Ukraine stage Crimea Black Sea Provocation! ⚡ - YouTube

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https://youtu.be/hNmS0dY_3-c
Seems you were on the ball mentioning martial law RC.
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Old 27th November 2018, 02:37   #11972 (permalink)
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In this dark hour, where are Ukraines allies?

Faced with overt and undeniable Russian military aggression, tantamount to a declaration of war by all reasonable interpretations of international law, Ukraines allies have so far failed to respond in an adequate way.

For all the talk of upholding Ukrainian sovereignty and defending its territorial integrity, supporting European integration and the importance of Ukraine as NATOs eastern flank: what are Ukraines allies doing, when it really matters?

It takes 30 seconds and 90 characters to issue a strongly-worded condemnation on Twitter. Its easy, quick and it has almost no value

https://www.kyivpost.com/article/opi...es-allies.html

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Old 27th November 2018, 16:00   #11973 (permalink)
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You got a mention.


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Old 27th November 2018, 17:40   #11974 (permalink)
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Thanks for that link (have you come in from the dark side? ) also a number of videos from the drop downs that cover many aspects of the war very well.

Putin is profiting from chaos in Ukraine and the west is letting him

Were often told that the reason the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, is so dangerous is that he is a brilliant political chess master, always thinking several moves ahead. Yet there is reason to believe that the real reason Putin is so dangerous is that he is no chess master at all. His latest skirmish with Ukraine, this time in the Sea of Azov, is certainly evidence that for Russia, chaos reigns. Having previously illegally annexed Crimea and launched a bloody shadow war in the east of Ukraine both in 2014, a busy year for Russian aggression Russia has only now officially acknowledged opening fire on Ukrainian forces

Read on https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...of-azov-russia
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Old 27th November 2018, 18:00   #11975 (permalink)
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Thanks for that link (have you come in from the dark side? ) also a number of videos from the drop downs that cover many aspects of the war very well.

Putin is profiting from chaos in Ukraine and the west is letting him

Were often told that the reason the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, is so dangerous is that he is a brilliant political chess master, always thinking several moves ahead. Yet there is reason to believe that the real reason Putin is so dangerous is that he is no chess master at all. His latest skirmish with Ukraine, this time in the Sea of Azov, is certainly evidence that for Russia, chaos reigns. Having previously illegally annexed Crimea and launched a bloody shadow war in the east of Ukraine both in 2014, a busy year for Russian aggression Russia has only now officially acknowledged opening fire on Ukrainian forces

Read on https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...of-azov-russia
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Old 28th November 2018, 08:07   #11976 (permalink)
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Ukraine president warns Russia tensions could lead to 'full-scale war'

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...crisis-deepens

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Commander of seized Ukrainian boat `Berdyansk` refuses to testify to FSB

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...fy-to-fsb.html
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At least 3 Ukraine sailors have admitted they were in the wrong.

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At least 3 Ukraine sailors have admitted they they were in the wrong.
As reported by Russia meanwhile the Ukrainian captain has been pressured to admit guilt and has refused to testify.

But guilty of exactly what Rose? This act of war occurred in waters shared by Russia & Ukraine under 2003 treaty.

You continue to defend the indefensible.

You tell us that you avoid the MSM as it is too controlled - do you really believe that your Russia media is not controlled ?
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Address of Ukraine to the UN Security Council on Kerch Strait incident

Mr. President, before coming here I did what some of us do every morning: I searched through the internet to find out what happened on this day in history, and look what I found Exactly on this day, Nov. 26, in 1939, the Soviet army orchestrated an incident by shelling the village of Mainila near the Soviet-Finish border. Then the Soviets claimed the shelling was done by the Finish side, and used it as a pretext for the invasion on Nov. 30. Thats how the so-called Winter War started, which eventually led to the expulsion of the Soviet Union from the League of Nations

Before delving into the subject, I would like first to express my dismay at the attempt of the Russian Federation to manipulate the agenda of the Security Council and to have a meeting convened under the deceiving title of Violation of the borders of the Russian Federation.

In this regard I have to emphasize that according to international law, Crimea and its respective territorial waters are the Ukrainian territory, temporarily occupied by the Russian Federation. Hence, there are no Russian borders in the area where the incident happened.

I repeat there are no Russian state borders around the Crimean Peninsula

On Nov. 25 , the Ukrainian commander twice requested the Russian maritime control services for passage through the Kerch Strait. He did not receive answer.

Ukraines right to cross the Kerch-Yenikale channel is guaranteed by para 1 of Article 2 of the Treaty between Ukraine and Russia on Cooperation and Use of the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait from 2003. The Treaty clearly provides for the freedom of navigation for both civil and military vessels of Ukraine and Russia in the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait.

If unopposed, the Kremlin regime will take another and another aggressive act, creating even wider conflict in the region."

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...ranscript.html
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When countries are in conflict, Treaties & Agreements start playing second fiddle.
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