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Bill & June 2nd December 2013 16:27

Ukraine riots.
 
BBC News - Ukraine media decry protest violence



I hope that you are not caught up in these disturbances Jaycey. Or even the cause of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill.

Jaycey 2nd December 2013 17:30

Re: Ukraine riots.
 
Funny you should bring that up Bill - first I was accused of starting protests in Turkey and now this....

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Strange that the Ukrainians (of the west) want into the EU and the easterners and government want stronger ties with Russia whereas in UK there are protests against EU membership.

As always nothing is as simple as first appears. I can’t yet fathom whether it’s a straightforward EU issue or plain dissatisfaction with the Yanukovych regime that has taken a stand pretty similar to Erdogan.

Until a few days ago the protests were limited to Kiev but yesterday there were thousands of people marching here in Zapororozhzhye with no police intervention that we saw.

In the meantime I shall concern myself with more important issues – like where can I find baked beans in Zap or buy toilet paper without resorting to obscene gestures :moonie:

Any other Ukraine based TLFers on here I wonder?

Spurs 2nd December 2013 18:04

Re: Ukraine riots.
 
Is it not about this time of the year Russia starts threatening to turn gas supplies off?

Jaycey 2nd December 2013 18:24

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Originally Posted by Spurs (Post 877833)
Is it not about this time of the year Russia starts threatening to turn gas supplies off?

Usually in January.

When Tymoshenko was in power she acquiesced to the not unreasonable Russian demands that energy bills be paid. But when Yanukovych narrowly won the next election he jailed her for kowtowing.

Interesting situation. If Ukraine should join the EU then Brussels will demand Tymoshenko’s release. And if Yanukovych again receives demands from Russia can he accept without losing face?

All the people I’ve spoken to agree that Ukraine would be less corrupt under Tymoshenko but Yanukovych personally owns the major banks, manufacturing and metallurgical plants.

We live in interesting times.

Spurs 2nd December 2013 18:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaycey (Post 877839)
Usually in January.

When Tymoshenko was in power she acquiesced to the not unreasonable Russian demands that energy bills be paid. But when Yanukovych narrowly won the next election he jailed her for kowtowing.

Interesting situation. If Ukraine should join the EU then Brussels will demand Tymoshenko’s release. And if Yanukovych again receives demands from Russia can he accept without losing face?

All the people I’ve spoken to agree that Ukraine would be less corrupt under Tymoshenko but Yanukovych personally owns the major banks, manufacturing and metallurgical plants.

We live in interesting times.

As per, money talks whilst Russia whispers.

Jaycey 3rd December 2013 18:28

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Biggest protests so far today – even my wife & I joined the marchers!

… Anti government uproar in parliament but no majority unfortunately.

… And what does President Yanukovych have to say? Nothing! He’s just remembered an urgent appointment in China!

KyivPost / Independence. Community. Trust

Jaycey 9th December 2013 09:05

Re: Ukraine riots.
 
Things hotting up here ... any bells ringing?

Let's hope it's not the start of another Orange Revolution.

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saoirse 9th December 2013 09:43

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Couple of hooligan ner do wells

Jaycey 9th December 2013 10:13

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Originally Posted by saoirse (Post 879500)
Couple of hooligan ner do wells

Takes one to know one Phil – waving the red flag again today?

We’ll be waving http://i40.tinypic.com/2uj31on.jpg in the square later.

Jaycey 10th December 2013 06:24

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http://i41.tinypic.com/20ibk6.jpg

A Boxing Champ Rises In Ukraine's Bare-Knuckle World Of Politics - Topix

And why not? The US has had it’s actors, the UK has it's wonkers so with any luck we’ll have a boxer.

Seriously though Klitschko would get my vote. Maybe not the brightest but he’s honest and he’d have good advisors - more importantly he’d get rid of the mafia types that run the country at the moment.

Protests are getting bigger every day but now Putin is sending his special riot police in and things could turn nasty.


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