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Old 19th July 2014, 14:59   #1 (permalink)
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ISIS Brutality

Unless there is a concerted effort by the free world to deal with these misogynistic thugs this attitude will eventually become normalised across the moslem regions. This is not a religious rite, it's sheer bullying and hatred of women by sick minded individuals.



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Who do you mean by the "free world", and what do you propose they do?

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By free world I mean places where you can live without being dictated to about your religion, because there is a respect for individual beliefs, and a consensus that private beliefs are not the government's business. I don't hold up any individual nation as a model for the rest of the world. Nowhere is perfect, but many places have a reasonable shot at it!
As I write ISIS has just told all Christians and other non/minority group moslems to leave Mosul or convert to Sunni Islam. Does that fit with your idea of a free world? It doesn't quite chime with mine.
As to what can be done about this, I'm at a loss, but I fear that this is a huge potential threat, possibly driving partition of Middle East states along tribal/religious lines. The only guaranteed outcome would be more refugees and more misery.
Do you have any ideas?
There has to be a line drawn somewhere; people committing this type of murder in other conflicts and countries have been called to account at the international court in the Hague, why is a blind eye turned to 'Islamic' actions taken by state leaders?
What's your opinion?
A last note: a Turkish neighbour, a well educated and travelled professional, is increasingly worried and in his opinion, sees Turkey as already split. When asked to explain, he says that in the east Kurdish people are already operating roadblocks and will stop strangers to ask their identity and their business, and make it clear whether or not they are welcome. I don't know if this is true, but if this is so, I fear for the future of the country.
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Just free re religion or does political view, sexual orientation, personal belief etc come into it too. Because if it does let's have the question again- Free world, where?
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I have always been quite fond of Oxford uni seconds rowing squad.
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Well your homosexual urges would certainly be punished by ISIS
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Give over - how come when he met the teams at the boat race it was announced Prince Edward would kiss the cocks of the winning team
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nice to see the banter alive and kicking and taking over from an attempt at a serious debate.
This thread should attract as much attention as the one about Israeli brutality since it specifically will affect Turkey

In particular it begs the question why ISIL who has declared a Caliphate does not now direct its call for Jihad against Israel instead of waging jihad against moderate Muslims

Isil has declared a Caliphate and this should be a worry
To understand this you have to understand the history of the Caliphate which takes you back to the 7th century when by force people were made to convert to Islam by the sword..and this included apostates as well as Christians Jews and other religions. If this hadnt been done Islam would not have flourished. The command comes from the Koran

Now the Jihadis under the direction of the self proclaimed Caliph are exterminating moderate Muslims who they name as infidels if they don't follow their strict codes they are also exterminating other groups..as all these are seen as the enemy within which if not curtailed will weaken strict dogmatic Sunni Islam.

So getting rid of weak Muslims and other infidels is a first and more important than tackling Israel..they will be next after the area has submitted.

No i haven't dreamed this up its there for all to see
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In particular it begs the question why ISIL who has declared a Caliphate does not now direct its call for Jihad against Israel instead of waging jihad against moderate Muslims
That is a very interesting point.
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