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Old 7th August 2017, 21:54   #1131 (permalink)
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If it's now just general chit chat maybe it's closing time for this thread.....
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Old 7th August 2017, 23:12   #1132 (permalink)
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If it's now just general chit chat maybe it's closing time for this thread.....
But where would we be without Widders insightly contributions to topic and brilliant repartee? …

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Seriously though your point is well taken – there are plenty of other threads for chit chat - but the whole business of sanctions is of truly serious concern to anyone following this precarious political play that could well involve us all.

Rather than invite more chit chat and insults I have PM’d you.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin’s surprise suggestion on Sept. 5 that peacekeepers could be deployed to the Donbas was rightly met with skepticism about the Kremlin’s motives. Putin’s original proposal – that peacekeepers be deployed only along the front line between Ukrainian and Russian-led forces – seemed to be designed only to freeze the conflict in place on the Kremlin’s terms, rather than resolve it. This assessment was reinforced by the fact that Russia had previously sabotaged all efforts by Ukraine to bring a peacekeeping mission into the country.

But U.S. Special Envoy on Ukraine Kurt Volker, speaking in an interview with Politico Magazine published on Nov. 27, believes that the Russians may genuinely be seeking a way out of the Donbas quagmire they themselves created. The Russians, he said, are not getting what they wanted out of their military intervention in Ukraine, which was a pro-Russian, Russia-friendly country, with a government in Kyiv they could work with. In fact, they’ve got entirely the opposite: a more nationalist, Western-oriented and unified Ukraine than ever before.

Moreover, this blunder has come at great cost – and not only in terms of money and lives of Russian soldiers: Russia’s reputation in the West is ruined, its relationships with the United States and the European Union in tatters, and its economy suffering under the weight of sanctions.

However, if Volker is correct, it has taken three years for the Kremlin to get to the point of realizing it has botched things badly in Ukraine and needs to find a way out. And it still won’t even admit that it maintains forces in Ukraine, so how could it admit to withdrawing them?

The Kremlin has never made any concessions on Ukraine: The Minsk cease-fire never occurred – there is fighting on the front every day, and a Ukrainian soldier is killed on average every three days. The 2014 and 2015 Minsk agreements were a sham – forced on Ukraine when Russia was in a position of strength, and were designed to weaken Ukraine further by forcing it to reabsorb Moscow’s fake “republics,” to act as a slow poison on the country’s politics and very sovereignty.

If Russia is really seeking an end to its war in the Donbas, it is the time for it to give up some ground, not just literally but figuratively – it must admit it is an active participant in the war, so that future negotiations between Volker and Vladislav Surkov, the Kremlin’s point-man on Ukraine, can at least proceed on the basis of reality.

Meanwhile, sanctions against Russia must be maintained, and it must be made plain to the Kremlin that they will be reinforced if it continues to defy the international community and occupy parts of Ukraine, including Crimea.

https://www.kyivpost.com/article/opi...sanctions.html
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Whistle-Blower on Doping Says Neutral Flag for Russia Is Fair Option

“With top Olympics officials expected imminently to announce a punishment for Russia over its elaborate sports doping scheme, the whistle-blower who played a central role in the illicit program said he was in favor of allowing Russian athletes who can establish their innocence to compete under a neutral flag at the coming Winter Games in Pyeongchang, South Korea…


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/s...tionfront&_r=0

But would Russia still sponsor these athletes ?
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Russia sanctions not to be lifted until Ukraine’s territorial integrity restored – Tillerson

“The United States cannot accept Russian invasion of Ukraine that has become the basis for the very stringent sanctions regime, and will “return” to the of Crimea after the Donbas conflict is settled, U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said at a meeting with diplomats in Washington Tuesday, Dec. 12.

Tillerson noted that “when you invade another country and take their territory, we cannot – that cannot be left to stand.” “And that is the basis for the very stringent sanctions regime that the U.S. and Europe imposed on Russia as a result of that invasion, and that regime will not change until Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is resolved and Ukraine’s territorial integrity is returned,” said Rex Tillerson...


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Re: Russian Sanctions

Western countries, led by the United States and European Union, imposed a range of sanctions on Russia in late March 2014 after the Kremlin invaded the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea. The second wave of sanctions followed in late April of the same year, after Russia began its covert military intervention in the Donbas, fomenting a fake insurgency that has cost more than 10,300 lives so far. The third wave of sanctions started to be imposed in late July 2014 and in August 2014, after Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down by a Buk anti-aircraft missile system that Russia had sent into Ukraine.

But almost four years later, Russia has still not responded to these sanctions by meeting its obligations under the Minsk peace accords, withdrawing its troops from Ukraine and ending its occupation of Crimea. The sanctions have hurt the Russian economy, certainly, but they have hurt the EU economy too. Does that mean that sanctions do not work?

No it does not. It means that these sanctions were ill-targeted, and not strong enough.

..… https://www.kyivpost.com/article/opi...on-target.html
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Re: Russian Sanctions

It seems the Russians have a free hand to murder people, without recrimination. Right back in history they are either murdering themselves, or other nations.
In the 2nd world war they executed an estimated 22,000 . Known as the Katyn Forest massacre. The murders have continued.
Will any Country stand up to them, or will they continue to extend their boundaries?
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It seems the Russians have a free hand to murder people, without recrimination. Right back in history they are either murdering themselves, or other nations.
In the 2nd world war they executed an estimated 22,000 . Known as the Katyn Forest massacre. The murders have continued.
Will any Country stand up to them, or will they continue to extend their boundaries?
Careful there CL, you've opened up an avenue for a flood of insults & off topic whataboutisms !

I would have suggested that you posted under "Spying is a deadly game" but that thread is unfortunately closed
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EU Lawmakers Call For World Cup Boycott

"BRUSSELS -- Dozens of members of the European Parliament have signed a letter calling on EU governments to boycott the soccer World Cup tournament in Russia this summer, citing President Vladimir Putin’s "mockery" of European values.

Forty-six lawmakers have so far signed the letter seen by RFE/RL on April 17.

The letter, which is set to be sent to the governments of all 28 EU member states on April 18, reads that the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain last month “was just the latest chapter in Vladimir Putin’s mockery of our European values.”

Britain blames Russia for the poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, with a nerve agent -- a charge that Moscow fiercely denies.

The letter also cites “indiscriminate bombings of schools, hospitals, and civilian areas in Syria; the violent military invasion in Ukraine; systematic hacking; disinformation campaigns; election meddling; trying to destabilize our societies and to weaken and divide the EU.”

“All this doesn’t make for a good World Cup host,” it adds.

“While we agree that sport can help build metaphorical bridges, as long as Putin is blowing up real ones in Syria, we cannot pretend this World Cup is just like any other major sporting event,” the letter also reads...


https://www.rferl.org/a/eu-lawmakers.../29173258.html
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