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Old 4th September 2014, 10:21   #1 (permalink)
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Does NATO achieve?

So NATO comes to Wales & a great boost for the Welsh economy, but what does NATO achieve?

30 or 40 years back it was a good threat & I do think many countries took heed of "the threat of force from NATO", but I do not think that's the case now.

Obviously the two most recent NATO mentions relate to ME & Ukraine/Russia. Not going into the politics of who is right or wrong, but we all should note NATOs actual recent record. Yes they have the fire power but its the mess they leave behind them that worries me.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia......................

I have no alternatives or answers but the body count does go sky high once they are "on site". Its inevitably the body count in various countries is part reason that people are hated in the West.

No doubt NATO has done good in some places but it needs to do better.
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Re: Does NATO achieve?

Closed schools, cancelled refuse collections, closed bus lanes, miles of fencing, motoplod tearing up and down and gunplod pretending to be bushes. 10,000 hangers on; but don't worry central gov. is paying for it.
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Very true, does it achieve though? Where in recent years has it actually won the war(s), battles yes but wars? Maybe they just do not go far enough once they get involved.
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Very true, does it achieve though? Where in recent years has it actually won the war(s), battles yes but wars? Maybe they just do not go far enough once they get involved.
Well, I may be wrong, but I think the only thing all the members have achieved in concert in recent years is the introduction of gay marriage.

On the downside (if you see it as such)they have created the tension in eastern Europe, brining the prospect of WW3 much closer.

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Well, I may be wrong, but I think the only thing all the members have achieved in concert in recent years is the introduction of gay marriage.

On the downside (if you see it as such)they have created the tension in eastern Europe, brining the prospect of WW3 much closer.

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Dare I ask about its involvement in the ME, or shall I get my coat?
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Dare I ask about its involvement in the ME, or shall I get my coat?
NATO’s essential purpose is to safeguard the freedom and security of its members through political and military means. At present there are no countries in the Middle East belong to NATO.

However, watch this space.....

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Never really been tested. Hope it never will.
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The test has been passed .
No euro war between former enemies now part of NATO .

We have much to be thankful for .

What other alliance has similar credentials ???
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... On the downside (if you see it as such)they have created the tension in eastern Europe, brining the prospect of WW3 much closer.

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Yes, but that is your "wood for the trees" view, which many do not share; living in a war zone does not give a perfect perspective on events.

Nato has been scrabbling around trying to find a role for itself. It has now created the environment in which it can justify its existence and survive.

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