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Old 1st April 2015, 10:02   #1 (permalink)
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2 armed people enter Turkey ruling party office in Istanbul

Two armed people enter Turkish ruling party office in Istanbul: media | Reuters

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Re: 2 armed people enter Turkey ruling party office in Istanbul

Two armed men detained after breaking into ruling AKP building in Istanbul - LOCAL


Unfortunately I think we'll see more of this type of thing in the lead up to June.
Just pray that the AKP don't win a majority, if they do I truly believe there's a chance of civil war.

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Two armed men detained after breaking into ruling AKP building in Istanbul - LOCAL


Unfortunately I think we'll see more of this type of thing in the lead up to June.
Just pray that the AKP don't win a majority, if they do I truly believe there's a chance of civil war.

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Do you really think there's a chance of a civil war Charlotte? That's a very serious thought.
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Re: 2 armed people enter Turkey ruling party office in Istanbul

I think that if the AKP win and transform the current system to a presidential system, against the wishes of a large part of the Turkish public, there's a real threat of serious unrest.
Put it this way, I listen to RTE and his MP's and I worry about the future of Turkey. I'm sure the widespread Gezi protests which were attended by an estimated 3 million people countrywide, will be nothing compared to what would happen if Erdogan takes things much further. I worry about the recently passed security bill which grants police the right to fire at protesters and detain people for up to 48 hours without approval from a prosecutor. I think this year will see a lot of unrest.



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Re: 2 armed people enter Turkey ruling party office in Istanbul

Turkish PM vows to prevent all ?unauthorized street protests? - POLITICS


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Re: 2 armed people enter Turkey ruling party office in Istanbul

Another incident this time outside a police station. The woman was carrying a bomb

Turkish police shoot two attackers outside ?stanbul police headquarter, one dead
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Re: 2 armed people enter Turkey ruling party office in Istanbul

Is this just tactics, they have staged things before, so they can try & convince voters that they need AKP to protect them from terrorists? They have used several devious tactics.

I agree that if AKP win with a majority and they continue down the presidential path it could indeed lead to a civil war.

The strange plans Erdogan has will lead to yet more poverty and the economy might collapse if they continue down the path they are following regarding interest.

Are the West preparing in case things go wrong - for this talks with Iran regarding nuclear power & arming Egypt? hedging their bets?
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Re: 2 armed people enter Turkey ruling party office in Istanbul

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Did you hear the about the case against the psychologist who claims RTE is mentally sick? He's being sued (of course) for his comments, but unfortunately for the state they used the professor several times for high profile court cases - so his defence is "You trust my opinion in a court of law, but don't trust it outside the courts? This is my professional opinion". I believe him. I do think Erdogan is ill. That's why I'm so afraid.

I also considered your theory about the recent terror attacks - I recall several AKP offices being targeted just before the local elections. I'm not sure this would be a wise move though, it's likely to backfire if it is a case of trying to scare voters or go for the sympathy vote because there's enough instability in Turkey at the moment (economy, war, refugees, polarised society) and the AKP voters might just decide 'no smoke without fire' and vote another way.

It is all smoke and mirrors though.
Coincidentally the late night parliamentary session (after the power cut) saw the vote for a second nuclear power plant pushed through. I can't think of a worse place for nuclear energy - a country that can't even safely mine, where several active terrorist organisations exist (including affiliated AQ and IS groups ) and that suffers earthquakes annually along with it's neighbouring countries.

The money must be really good.

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Re: 2 armed people enter Turkey ruling party office in Istanbul

As I keep saying, we do not need another (nuclear) power station. If the government actively supports the people who wish to invest their own cash in alternative energy schemes there would be more than enough to supply the demand. I was recently told that in my inland county there are more than 96 solar energy projects waiting to be approved, some of them several MW.
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Tosmur,

Did you hear the about the case against the psychologist who claims RTE is mentally sick? He's being sued (of course) for his comments, but unfortunately for the state they used the professor several times for high profile court cases - so his defence is "You trust my opinion in a court of law, but don't trust it outside the courts? This is my professional opinion". I believe him. I do think Erdogan is ill. That's why I'm so afraid.

I also considered your theory about the recent terror attacks - I recall several AKP offices being targeted just before the local elections. I'm not sure this would be a wise move though, it's likely to backfire if it is a case of trying to scare voters or go for the sympathy vote because there's enough instability in Turkey at the moment (economy, war, refugees, polarised society) and the AKP voters might just decide 'no smoke without fire' and vote another way.

It is all smoke and mirrors though.
Coincidentally the late night parliamentary session (after the power cut) saw the vote for a second nuclear power plant pushed through. I can't think of a worse place for nuclear energy - a country that can't even safely mine, where several active terrorist organisations exist (including affiliated AQ and IS groups ) and that suffers earthquakes annually along with it's neighbouring countries.

The money must be really good.

Charlotte
In the past people in Turkey protested so strongly against nuclear power that they prevented it happening - now they have no right to protest - sad.

I agree safety in Turkey is a huge issue so many die due to unsafe working conditions in building, mining etc - hate to think how many more might die in nuclear plants. I guess the plants will be put in Eastern Turkey. As you say earthquakes are another danger as proved in Japan, they still have problems with a nuclear plant following earthquake etc.

Erdogan like many other leaders who are in power too long has gone power crazy in my opinion - crazy people with nuclear power - scary.

Wise moves & Erdogan in the same sentence? No surely not lol. Erdogan uses various tactics to attract different voters sometimes talks strong - we will not listen to EU, US he also uses Turkey needs to stamp out terrorists PKK & he attacks HDP, this includes attempts for sympathy votes in a way by claiming PKK & HDP are attacking AKP it seems like a sort of alarmist tactic making people fear the terrorist might attack them so they are led to believe they need Erdogan/AKP's protection. Other times he tries for a different type of elector we are religious nice people. In reality Turkish people are probably more likely to be attacked by ISIS. If Turkish citizens say anything against Erdogan or Turkish government then the people they need to really fear is the authorities.

Turkey seems to be like a time bomb at the moment - leaving people wondering what will blow up next.

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