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Old 11th August 2017, 17:28   #6601 (permalink)
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Re: Migrant quotas

We have very few.

Locally there are a few North African handbag seller types who have been resident in the village- registered etc for quite a few years. They base themselves here but travel down the coast to tourist areas to sell their wares

Was actually drinking with one 2 nights ago

Ironically when talking to them they think Spain is too easy going re immigrants- make of that what you will
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Re: Migrant quotas

Here's a rather different aspect re. migrants that some of you might find interesting !
Taken from "The Week" Biber Vienna. "Sugar Mamas" who prey on men.

We've all heard the sad tales of migrant girls trafficked in the sex trade, say Milisa Erkurt and Bilal Albeirouti. But what about young migrant men ? In Austria, men from countries such as Iraq who can't find work are increasingly being adopted by "sugar mamas" - older Austrian women "who give the refugees a place to stay, money and gifts, and in return, demand sex". At first glance, "it may seem like and win win deal" After all, we are talking about consenting adults. But the men, who often speak little German, are utterly helpless in the relationship. One Iraqi man, Hassan 24, said his patroness give him expensive food and wine and a gym membership, but doesn't let him meet anyone else, ever. Tarek, 26 from Syria, said that when he finally broke free from his 51 year old sugar mama, she stalked him and tried to get him fired from his job. These men, typically from deeply patriarchal cultures, often don't seek help, because they're so ashamed at being dependent on a woman. As Manfred Buchner of the Austrian Men's Health Centre puts it. "When distress and great material differences are exploited to satisfy the sexual desires of the rich, it's abuse"
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Old 15th August 2017, 11:16   #6603 (permalink)
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Here's a rather different aspect re. migrants that some of you might find interesting !
Taken from "The Week" Biber Vienna. "Sugar Mamas" who prey on men.

We've all heard the sad tales of migrant girls trafficked in the sex trade, say Milisa Erkurt and Bilal Albeirouti. But what about young migrant men ? In Austria, men from countries such as Iraq who can't find work are increasingly being adopted by "sugar mamas" - older Austrian women "who give the refugees a place to stay, money and gifts, and in return, demand sex". At first glance, "it may seem like and win win deal" After all, we are talking about consenting adults. But the men, who often speak little German, are utterly helpless in the relationship. One Iraqi man, Hassan 24, said his patroness give him expensive food and wine and a gym membership, but doesn't let him meet anyone else, ever. Tarek, 26 from Syria, said that when he finally broke free from his 51 year old sugar mama, she stalked him and tried to get him fired from his job. These men, typically from deeply patriarchal cultures, often don't seek help, because they're so ashamed at being dependent on a woman. As Manfred Buchner of the Austrian Men's Health Centre puts it. "When distress and great material differences are exploited to satisfy the sexual desires of the rich, it's abuse"
Must be extremely hard for them, its a roll reversal from the culture that they left in some cases, a world where they dominated women. Welcome to the other side.
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Re: Migrant quotas

In the last 2 months...

"Frontex said 10,160 migrants arrived from Northern Africa on Italy's southern shores in July, 57 percent fewer than in June and the lowest level of arrivals in July since 2014. "....

Thats 23600 arrived in 2 months this year.
60,200 Jan - May
plus 200,000 last year.

Thats nearly 300,000 in the last 18 months, and just for Italy.

Looking at the numbers and state of most of them I don't believe they could all raise the smugglers cash, is someone funding all this?
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Old 15th August 2017, 16:59   #6605 (permalink)
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In the last 2 months...

"Frontex said 10,160 migrants arrived from Northern Africa on Italy's southern shores in July, 57 percent fewer than in June and the lowest level of arrivals in July since 2014. "....

Thats 23600 arrived in 2 months this year.
60,200 Jan - May
plus 200,000 last year.

Thats nearly 300,000 in the last 18 months, and just for Italy.

Looking at the numbers and state of most of them I don't believe they could all raise the smugglers cash, is someone funding all this?
Well I'm not..........
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Spurs, I think we are all supporting them in one way or another through our taxes which our governments decide how to spend.

There's more slavery going on now than there ever was before!

"The EU’s open border policy is being cited as a cause for the increase in human trafficking and modern slavery in Britain."

EU free movement has led to rise in people trafficking – Westmonster
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Yes ..... as cited by Westmonster ........... if your anti-Brexit and want to hear their anti-EU spin ...... the good is they cite links NCA which agrees free movement makes it easy, but the piece doesn't point out the disadvantages leaving would make as seen by the people that deal with it day to day. .


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Leaving EU could make it 'impossible' to tackle human trafficking, warn campaigners

Britain’s withdrawal from the EU could dramatically curtail efforts by UK police forces to tackle slavery and human trafficking, making it harder and in some cases “impossible” to protect victims from abuse, leading charities, the police and security experts have warned.

Road to Brexit: Leaving EU could make it 'impossible' to tackle human trafficking, warn campaigners | The Independent

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...te-westmonster
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Old 15th August 2017, 20:52   #6608 (permalink)
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Re: Migrant quotas

Got to feel for these countries where these refugees/migrants are ending up. How I wonder would the UK cope with those types of figures?
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Yes ..... as cited by Westmonster ........... believable if your anti-Brexit and want to hear their anti-EU spin ...... they cite links from The Times and the NCA but it doesn't seem to apply to their opinion.


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Leaving EU could make it 'impossible' to tackle human trafficking, warn campaigners

Britain’s withdrawal from the EU could dramatically curtail efforts by UK police forces to tackle slavery and human trafficking, making it harder and in some cases “impossible” to protect victims from abuse, leading charities, the police and security experts have warned.

Road to Brexit: Leaving EU could make it 'impossible' to tackle human trafficking, warn campaigners | The Independent

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...te-westmonster
I would've thought trafficking of people should be stopped at source, bit late once they've landed & then dropped into the human black market.
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I would've thought trafficking of people should be stopped at source, bit late once they've landed & then dropped into the human black market.
So do I.

But it's a multi million industry with mafia involvement and finance where greed is involved opens many avenues in many countries.
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