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Old 12th August 2017, 19:12   #4741 (permalink)
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NK has threatened the US on many previous occasions so why have we now got this ratcheted up rhetoric?

As for the US tending to threaten countries that are not even a threat, then again why are you voicing no discomfort over his words on Venezuela, saying that is par for the course does not diminish the fact that Trump painted the picture that he was against such behaviour and would leave well alone.

You like many others said give him a chance, refusing to see the writing on the wall, and even now when he not only carries on with some of the more dangerous foreign policies of some of his predecessors and a few more foreign and domestic policies even more divisive and dangerous you still refuse to find fault at any point.
Why no mention from you about NK advancement in nuclear weapons? Its not just missiles, its what they can carry thats worrying the US & that region.


The US with Venezuela? They haven't just threatened them, their covert action have been going on for years in that country & some countries even consider sanctions as an act of war......... the US has sanctioned them but ironically not the oil exports from there to the US oil refineries, strange that or maybe not!!.
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Old 12th August 2017, 19:31   #4742 (permalink)
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Why no mention from you about NK advancement in nuclear weapons? Its not just missiles, its what they can carry thats worrying the US & that region.


The US with Venezuela? They haven't just threatened them, their covert action have been going on for years in that country & some countries even consider sanctions as an act of war......... the US has sanctioned them but ironically not the oil exports from there to the US oil refineries, strange that or maybe not!!.
The only thing that is clear as it has been confirmed by various Countries and experts working with various agencies is that NK has greatly advanced its missile capability. Only ONE agency, the Defence Intelligence Agency of the US is saying it has miniaturised the nuclear device to go on the missile. No other Nation or any other US Agency has said this, and bear in mind thats the same Agency that gave the false dossier on Iraq.

Even when the smaller nuclear device is fitted they still have to master re entry and control both of which again there is no evidence of. So in essence NK are no further ahead on the nuclear ICBM point.

In regard to Venezuela point I am not sure what your stand point is, are you saying that its ok for Trump to consider military intervention or are you siding with reason and saying its none of his busness?
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The only thing that is clear as it has been confirmed by various Countries and experts working with various agencies is that NK has greatly advanced its missile capability. Only ONE agency, the Defence Intelligence Agency of the US is saying it has miniaturised the nuclear device to go on the missile. No other Nation or any other US Agency has said this, and bear in mind thats the same Agency that gave the false dossier on Iraq.

Even when the smaller nuclear device is fitted they still have to master re entry and control both of which again there is no evidence of. So in essence NK are no further ahead on the nuclear ICBM point.

In regard to Venezuela point I am not sure what your stand point is, are you saying that its ok for Trump to consider military intervention or are you siding with reason and saying its none of his busness?
So should that report just be ignored then? The clue might be in the name, "Defence Intelligence Agency"..............
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Old 12th August 2017, 19:59   #4744 (permalink)
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So should that report just be ignored then? The clue might be in the name, "Defence Intelligence Agency"..............
I am not saying it should be ignored, but do you not think that the opinion of other Agencies and Countries should be taken into consideration before shooting one's mouth off.

Even if its is true, the overall situation still has not changed as, SK and Japan have always been in range of the missiles at hand and as stated they still have to sort the numerous other problems once they get to that stage.
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Old 12th August 2017, 20:16   #4745 (permalink)
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I am not saying it should be ignored, but do you not think that the opinion of other Agencies and Countries should be taken into consideration before shooting one's mouth off.

Even if its is true, the overall situation still has not changed as, SK and Japan have always been in range of the missiles at hand and as stated they still have to sort the numerous other problems once they get to that stage.
The US has yet to strike a blow against NK, its NK who is acting with aggression or is that to be ignored in the hope that they'll just go away? Nobody wants a war but unless challenged NK IMO will just continue down the same road till something does happen, either deliberately or accidental.

"According to that information leaked to the Washington Post, US intelligence officials now believe North Korea's claim that it has the technology to fit its missiles with nuclear warheads.
Japan's defence ministry has also recently stated this is a possibility".
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The US has yet to strike a blow against NK, its NK who is acting with aggression or is that to be ignored in the hope that they'll just go away? Nobody wants a war but unless challenged NK IMO will just continue down the same road till something does happen, either deliberately or accidental.
Both have played themselves into a corner. The next round of missile tests will see Trump have to decide whether they are nuclear tipped or not and are they going to reach American bases. Failure to act will show that for all of his talk he does not act and acting when they may just be further tests will cause war.
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Both have played themselves into a corner. The next round of missile tests will see Trump have to decide whether they are nuclear tipped or not and are they going to reach American bases. Failure to act will show that for all of his talk he does not act and acting when they may just be further tests will cause war.
I do not see it like that, theyre not going to wait to see what's inside them, they surely have a limit on how close they will let missiles get to US bases or their allies. Pointless having a missile defence system if your not going to use it.
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Old 12th August 2017, 21:23   #4748 (permalink)
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I do not see it like that, theyre not going to wait to see what's inside them, they surely have a limit on how close they will let missiles get to US bases or their allies. Pointless having a missile defence system if your not going to use it.
My point exactly!... why did'nt the US shoot down the last missile tests they did not know where the were going to land..... so if they shoot down the next ones on what basis do they do that?...
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My point exactly!... why did'nt the US shoot down the last missile tests they did not know where the were going to land..... so if they shoot down the next ones on what basis do they do that?...
I would imagine that the US are more than aware of the missiles capabilities distance & trajectory, as said it will be done by how close they come to them. They will not wait till it lands in their midst to do something about it.
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I note in today's media accusations that the engine for NKs long range misiles has been supplied by Putin....
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