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Old 21st January 2016, 11:29   #21 (permalink)
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Re: A hard year for Turkey.

I'm in Egypt at the moment, in Luxor and travelling to a Red Sea resort tomorrow. To those who think I'm nuts (and many people have told me that I am) if I'd have said I was off to Paris for a few days, and intended going to a concert, would you have said I was crazy?? I think not, and yet look what happened there.

The world is a smaller, and less safe place than it was. Which country can be said to be totally safe in these troubled times? I don't take unconsidered risks, as a single woman traveller I'm always careful and try to be alert. The alternative - never going anywhere - is not one I'm prepared to consider.
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Old 21st January 2016, 11:37   #22 (permalink)
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Re: A hard year for Turkey.

But Egypt is a country with a history of terrorists deliberately targeting tourists and has been for 20 years, even Gov forces killed a group of tourists lately, the probability of an attack is far greater than Paris IMHO.
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I can see why many people are not even putting Turkey on the radar .
Erdogen may not care as the agean coastline did not vote for him .

Turkey will have to step up if she wants tourists back.
Which I am not convinced about .
Especially when they read headlines like these:-

Kurdish leader warns of civil war in Turkey

Turkey’s security crackdown in the Kurdish-majority southeast could spill over to the country’s west and eventually become a civil war, warns Kurdish politician Kamuran Yuksek in an interview with Al-Monitor.

Read more: Kurdish leader warns of civil war in Turkey - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

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Old 21st January 2016, 21:48   #24 (permalink)
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Re: A hard year for Turkey.

Did not realise this has been going on for some considerable time.....thought it was just a reaction to events in Syria.....we do not hear about this situation on UK or EU networks.

Popular Turkish TV host attacked for supporting Diyarbakir teacher - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

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Well, this shows the level of hatred between Turkish and Kurdish people. Turks are, finally, beginning to hate Kurds, at all levels.

Each Turkish soldier dead at the hand of Kurds is another addition to the level of hatred.

There is a never before seen lack of sensitivity to whatever is going on in the Kurdish regions. People are so sick and tired of terror, its excuses and all that follows, even babies dying don't mean much. In fact, recently PKK attacked a civil target, killing 3 children and even that didn't cause an uproar as it used to. It is a saturation of feelings, a yielding of the soul under decades of burden.

This is reaching towards a point where people won't care about almost anything anymore and base instincts of defense will override any other condition. In those situations, those alike stick together, however much they might despise each other at other times.

I honestly don't understand it anymore. Nothing makes sense in the country and no one speaks a single word that means anything. Half of the anger towards Beyaz is actually beyond politics. It has to do with 'spoiling' the only form of relaxation outlet with politics. In other words, people don't want to know, don't want to think. Generations have spent their mental energies, reached to the limit of their intellectual stamina trying to argue the point. Everything is hollow, everything is pointless.

You keyboard warriors who know not much in reality think you analyzed most everything and everyone else is stupid and misinformed. I think reality is simpler: People are fed up. They just want this to end, no matter what the outcome
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Re: A hard year for Turkey.

ISIS ‘plans to kidnap Russian tourists’ in Turkey

Russia’s federal tourism agency on Wednesday issued a warning that Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) were planning to abduct Russian citizens in Turkey.

“According to the competent agencies, leaders of the ISIS terrorist group plan to take hostages from among Russian citizens in Turkey,” it said in a statement.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...in-Turkey.html

I wonder how long will it be before they turn their attentions to UK tourists?

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Re: A hard year for Turkey.

No wish to contradict the previous post but it does seem that any masked person who shouts !Boo! on video gets the whole world to jump. Of all these
"Isis" threats, I wonder how many are actually credible , I mean, to forewarn seems stupid, unless everyone panics, passes new laws and runs around like headless chickens, then its a victory.
Still its all grist to the mill for the news media sadly.
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Re: A hard year for Turkey.

Yes well we know you as hard as nails and takes no notice of officialdom, but I'm sure the good people of Russia wants to hear what their official federal tourism has to say on the matter. Then they can make up their own mind, at least they've been warned.
Or maybe you think it isn't newsworthy!

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Yes well we know you as hard as nails and takes no notice of officialdom, but I'm sure the good people of Russia wants to hear what their official federal tourism has to say on the matter. Then they can make up their own mind, at least they've been warned.
Or maybe you think it isn't newsworthy!

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Not at all, as I said, no contradiction intended, but a 17 old in a black mask threatening to destroy England really isn't credible, hey but for them that believe it, good luck to em.
What next, " bank robber threatens to rob Lloyds"? "Shoplifter warns Tesco?"
The real deal carry out the crime / atrocity then claim it.
So which are true and which are false? should we leave home, Should we cancel our Hols?
The news media sells sensationalism, caring little for truth. Personally as with the Irish Troubles, I go about my business as normal and there were far more atrocities per week then than we see today.
How quick we seem to forget.
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Re: A hard year for Turkey.

Have to agree with you Mollag....NI troubles started in 69.....I was 13 years of age and it just became a way of life after a while.....Middle East has also had it fair share of trouble but it never stopped people travelling.

When I compare myself and my attitude to life and compare that to the threat of terrorists and their desire to disrupt it.....we had very little control over it ......the no warning atrocities always had the most effect on us...and they were few and far between.....even the most hardened minds crumpled in those circumstances, nevertheless we got on with our lives as best we could. Staying at home was not the solution.

If you believe the hype and the need for headlines to sell papers....they tend to state the obvious and create a big headline from it.....lets face it.....something is going down every day of the week somewhere in the world and Turkey has had it fair share of it over the past 30 years or more.

Do not allow them get into your head with bad thoughts of what might happen, chances are it never will.
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