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?? And Hardt is the spokesman for the Chancellor.
Pointless having a Foreign Minister then.
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Pointless having a Foreign Minister then.
Pointless having a Foreign Minister without honour.
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So now he becomes a German Foreign Minister without honour.............nonetheless he is Germanys Foreign Minister, I would say that makes him a bit higher up the ladder than a spokesman. Perhaps if the US hadn't been caught out spying on Germany his opinion may have been different.
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So now he becomes a German Foreign Minister without honour.............nonetheless he is Germanys Foreign Minister, I would say that makes him a bit higher up the ladder than a spokesman. Perhaps if the US hadn't been caught out spying on Germany his opinion may have been different.
Earwigo again – what part of #20 did you not understand? Hardt is spokesman for Merkel which imo makes him a good few rungs higher than Steinmeier.

The crazed dwarf is directly responsible for the deaths of 10,000 Ukrainians, tens of thousands injured & 1,5 million dispossessed – plus God only knows how many in Syria. Can there be any doubt but that any person sympathising with this evil man is without honour, brainwashed or retarded?
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Earwigo again – what part of #20 did you not understand? Hardt is spokesman for Merkel which imo makes him a good few rungs higher than Steinmeier.

The crazed dwarf is directly responsible for the deaths of 10,000 Ukrainians, tens of thousands injured & 1,5 million dispossessed – plus God only knows how many in Syria. Can there be any doubt but that any person sympathising with this evil man is without honour, brainwashed or retarded?
Oh I get you, so this "mouth piece" is higher than a Minister? So its not a case then that a Minister is not one step below the German Chancellor, they are actually several steps below in your book? Cant see your mouth piece on the top table.

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Federal Minister of Foreign Affairs Frank-Walter Steinmeier SPD
Federal Minister of the Interior Thomas de Maizière CDU


Before you YET AGAIN drag us elsewhere, I thought this was about NATO, not Ukraine or Syria.
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Oh I get you, so this "mouth piece" is higher than a Minister? So its not a case then that a Minister is not one step below the German Chancellor, they are actually several steps below in your book? Cant see your mouth piece on the top table.

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Before you YET AGAIN drag us elsewhere, I thought this was about NATO, not Ukraine or Syria.
The spokesman is speaking on behalf of the Chancellor, a higher office than a minister. I can explain it to you but unfortunately I can’t understand it for you.

And if you can introduce Germany to the thread (#15) I see no reason to exclude Ukraine or Syria (or even Russia at the risk of upsetting your delicate sensitivities )
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The spokesman is speaking on behalf of the Chancellor, a higher office than a minister. I can explain it to you but unfortunately I can’t understand it for you.

And if you can introduce Germany to the thread (#15) I see no reason to exclude Ukraine or Syria (or even Russia at the risk of upsetting your delicate sensitivities )
You really do believe some of the cr*p you come out with.
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You really do believe some of the cr*p you come out with.
Your idea of debating? Maybe you should stay off the wacky baccy tonight and try again in the morning.

But yes, I do believe that the German Chancellor is senior to a German Minister.
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NATO should keep its door open to countries of strategic importance, such as Ukraine, Poland's President Andrzej Duda said on Wednesday.

"NATO should uphold an open-door policy, especially when it comes to countries that are strategic in terms of their character and location," Duda told a joint news conference with Slovak president Andrej Kiska in Bratislava.

"And it should always be ready to assist countries which have been attacked and against which international laws have been broken," Duda also said.

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Why NATO Should Hold No Illusions About Moscow’s Intentions

On Friday and Saturday, NATO leaders will gather in Warsaw to take new steps to strengthen the alliance’s capabilities and presence on the Eastern flank. This is part of the West's approach to deal with a revanchist Russia.

A successful outcome at the Warsaw summit would help to stabilize NATO allies and would give the West a boost of morale in a period where we are plagued by political uncertainty and retrenchment.

The new Western approach to Russia emerged at the Wales summit in 2014, as a response to its illegal annexation of Crimea and its ongoing military campaign in eastern Ukraine. It puts firmness and deterrence at the forefront when, before the events in 2014, dialogue and cooperation with Russia came first.

We should hold no illusions about Moscow’s intentions. Behind the bullying and disruption of pro-Western governments bordering Russia lies a clash of ideas. On the one side are the rule of law, an accountable bureaucracy and democratic elections kept in high regard; on the other you have an unconstrained state that can sacrifice its own citizens to preserve its rulers’ ambition.

But the clash is not only taking place in our shared neighborhood. Moscow clearly aims to undermine the liberal international order and Western unity that has served us well since the end of World War II. We see that in Europe, where Russia uses its energy resources as a weapon to divide allies from one another. Or when the state-funded TV station Russia Today spreads misinformation about the trade deal between the EU and the United States (TTIP), the Kremlin is trying to undermine a future source of creativity and prosperity. And when Russia is backing political parties in favoring a dissolution of the European Union. It should come as no surprise that President Putin is one of the few, if not the only world leader, who has welcomed Brexit.

Why NATO Should Hold No Illusions About Moscow?s Intentions


NATO's Warsaw summit is a test the west must pass

The NATO summit that convenes in Warsaw on July 8 was always going to be unusually important because of the recent sharp deterioration in the west's relationship with Russia. Now, following Britain's vote to leave the EU, the Warsaw summit is shaping up as a crucial test of the coherence of the western alliance - which must follow through on tough and potentially divisive decisions, intended to strengthen western deterrence of Russia.

Financial Times: NATO's Warsaw summit is a test the west must pass
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