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Old 16th February 2018, 14:55   #181 (permalink)
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There is talk of up to 2 hundred dead
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Turkey warned of grave consequences on Wednesday after pro-Syrian government forces entered Syria’s Afrin region to help Kurdish fighters repel a Turkish offensive.

Their arrival opens the door to wider escalation on Syria’s messy northern battlefront, where Turkish troops, Syrian rebels, the Syrian army, Iran-linked militias backing Damascus, Kurdish fighters and Russian and American forces are all contending.

The Syrian Kurdish YPG militia said Turkish planes bombed a town in Afrin on Wednesday, as Ankara pressed its month-long assault. Turkey launched the air and ground offensive to drive out the YPG, which it considers a security threat along its border.

Paramilitary forces backing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad arrived in Afrin on Tuesday to help the YPG, which said they would deploy near the border. Turkey and its Syrian insurgent allies tried to force them back with artillery fire.

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan’s spokesman said on Wednesday that the pro-Assad forces had retreated. “Any step by the regime or other elements in this direction will surely have serious consequences,” Ibrahim Kalin told a news conference.

But a YPG official and a pro-Assad military commander denied similar Turkish statements on Tuesday night.

A commander in the alliance fighting alongside Damascus told Reuters the forces were in Afrin and had returned fire against Syrian insurgents backed by Turkey.

Erdogan described the pro-government fighters coming to the YPG’s aid as Shi‘ite militias and warned they would pay a heavy price. Although Turkey is not in direct talks with the Syrian government, its messages are being indirectly conveyed to Damascus, his spokesman said on Wednesday.

A new confrontation, pitting the Turkish army and its allies directly against pro-Assad forces, would further scramble the web of alliances and rivalries already at play in northern Syria.

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Turkey, as a member of NATO, will take the view that they are NATO's line of defence against terrorism from Syria and beyond.
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Turkey's Nationalism is veering away from NATO it seems if the President of Turkey advisor is to be believed



Yigit Bulut, told the audience in TV commentary aired on government broadcasting network TRT on Feb. 13, 2018. “In my opinion, the Aegean Army must be fortified with Russian and Chinese-made fighter jets because one day some NATO countries that provided arms worth $3 billion to the PKK [YPG Syria] America may very well consider attacking Turkey,” he said, stressing that a non-Western air force fleet would come in handy. He also claimed that one of the reasons Turkey has purchased Russian S-400 long-range missile batteries [at least on paper as of now] is attributed to such a contingency.
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Waiting for Putin and Assad to run out of people to kill. Is that our plan?

It has been a quieter than average week in Syria. More than 400 people were killed in the unimaginably awful siege of eastern Ghouta, most of them civilians. But in the seven years since the regime of Bashar al-Assad set in motion the Syrian civil war, almost 500,000 people have died – well over 1,000 a week…

But when politicians say that there is no military solution in Syria, they are lying: there is a military solution and Assad, Khamenei and Putin are imposing it.

The west can either try to stop them or wait until peace comes to Syria when Assad and Putin run out of people to kill.

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For Russia, There’s No Way Out of Syria

"Syrian President Bashar Assad has trapped Russia into fighting until the bitter end…

In Syria, Russia is discovering that winning the war might be easier than winning the peace.

Each time President Putin declares victory or announces a drawdown of Russian forces, like he did in December, the fighting flares up with a new intensity and Moscow is required to fly in reinforcements.

Having saved Syrian President Bashar Assad from being toppled by Islamist rebels with a carefully calibrated series of airstrikes, Moscow is now struggling to parlay its military gains into an internationally legitimate political settlement that would help Russia recoup its investments in the conflict. For now, Syria remains ungovernable and splintered into fiefdoms run by regional players with their own interests…


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Russia Vetoes U.S. Resolution On Syria In U.N. Security Council

"At a U.N. Security Council meeting Tuesday, Russia has vetoed a resolution on Syria drafted by the United States on the latest apparent chemical weapons attack, at a time when President Trump is considering launching new military action.

Meanwhile, inspectors from the international chemical weapons watchdog prepare to head into the country.


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The international air traffic control agency Eurocontrol has warned airlines to exercise caution in the eastern Mediterranean due to the possible launch of air strikes into Syria in the next 72 hours.

Eurocontrol said that air-to-ground and/or cruise missiles could be used within that period and there was a possibility of intermittent disruption of radio navigation equipment.

US President Donald Trump and Western allies are discussing possible military action after they blamed Syria's President Bashar al-Assad for a suspected poison gas attack on Saturday on a rebel-held town that long had held out against government forces.....

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The international air traffic control agency Eurocontrol has warned airlines to exercise caution in the eastern Mediterranean due to the possible launch of air strikes into Syria in the next 72 hours.

Eurocontrol said that air-to-ground and/or cruise missiles could be used within that period and there was a possibility of intermittent disruption of radio navigation equipment.

US President Donald Trump and Western allies are discussing possible military action after they blamed Syria's President Bashar al-Assad for a *suspected* poison gas attack on Saturday on a rebel-held town that long had held out against government forces.....

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...053821807.html
"Suspected" being much the operative word.

First- we had the alleged meddling of Russia in the US elections. Over a year on and not a scrap of evidence.

Second- we had the so called "nerve agent" attack at Salisbury. Over a month gone and again no evidence.

Now we have a "suspected" gas attack on children in Syria. "Suspected" if you didn't know already is shorthand for "we have no evidence".

All of the above is a concerted attempt at turning people in the Western world against Russia to justify military action against them. It seems to have the effect desired. Virtually all the MSM and politicians of all sides are now baying for blood. Everyone is now calling for war against Syria. This makes me extremely nervous because universal bipartisan support is usually a sign that something unwise is about to happen. There is no one left to ask skeptical questions. Everyone should be skeptical, especially over this so called gas attack. Bearing in mind of course that following the alleged gas attack by Assad last year turned out to be mere propaganda designed to manipulate the gullible.

Even if Assad was responsible, why risk all out conflict with the danger of super power escalation? If Assad is eliminated who exactly is going to control Syria? Is there another strongman waiting to materialise? Will there be proper democracy and peace there? Again, we all know the answer to that.

Who are the enemies of Assad? Non other than ISIS extremists.

Governments already tolerate equally inhumane attrocities like the one currently going on in Yemen. Is it likely the US will attack Saudi who are the culprits? You know the answer to that.

I have always dismissed the hysteria whipped up by the media and others of WWIII as that- stupid hysteria to push a selfish agenda like selling more newspapers. But now I am worried. Very worried.

We should never forget that we deal with evil pathological liars, crooks and swindlers.

I have to say, I thought I was cynical already, but I have been shocked at the near unanimity amongst the political and complicit media, here and abroad, who seem to have a cheerful indifference to perpetrate or accept brazen, in-your-face lies for the purposes of prolonging a civil war along with its death and destruction.

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"Suspected" being much the operative word.

First- we had the alleged meddling of Russia in the US elections. Over a year on and not a scrap of evidence.

Second- we had the so called "nerve agent" attack at Salisbury. Over a month gone and again no evidence.

Now we have a "suspected" gas attack on children in Syria. "Suspected" if you didn't know already is shorthand for "we have no evidence".

All of the above is a concerted attempt at turning people in the Western world against Russia to justify military action against them. It seems to have the effect desired. Virtually all the MSM and politicians of all sides are now baying for blood. Everyone is now calling for war against Syria. This makes me extremely nervous because universal bipartisan support is usually a sign that something unwise is about to happen. There is no one left to ask skeptical questions. Everyone should be skeptical, especially over this so called gas attack. Bearing in mind of course that following the alleged gas attack by Assad last year turned out to be mere propaganda designed to manipulate the gullible.

Even if Assad was responsible, why risk all out conflict with the danger of super power escalation? If Assad is eliminated who exactly is going to control Syria? Is there another strongman waiting to materialise? Will there be proper democracy and peace there? Again, we all know the answer to that.

Who are the enemies of Assad? Non other than ISIS extremists.

Governments already tolerate equally inhumane attrocities like the one currently going on in Yemen. Is it likely the US will attack Saudi who are the culprits? You know the answer to that.

I have always dismissed the hysteria whipped up by the media and others of WWIII as that- stupid hysteria to push a selfish agenda like selling more newspapers. But now I am worried. Very worried.

We should never forget that we deal with evil pathological liars, crooks and swindlers.

I have to say, I thought I was cynical already, but I have been shocked at the near unanimity amongst the political and complicit media, here and abroad, who seem to have a cheerful indifference to perpetrate or accept brazen, in-your-face lies for the purposes of prolonging a civil war along with its death and destruction.
Great post Rose and bang on the button. I would add that Trump is badly cornered politically at home, May is not doing much better with this Brexit fiasco. You know what happens when you corner a rat, he goes on the attack. Trump now badly needs a big event to take the spotlight off the enquiries surrounding him. Only yesterday the offices and home of his lawyer have been raided by the FBI. As regards Russia meddling in the US elections is concerned, I believe that the answer is much closer to home, Cambridge Analytica. Their offices have been raided but that seems to have gone quiet. Of course they gave them plenty of notice that they were going to do it. What a circus, 'we will be soon applying to the courts to get a warrant and should we get it we are coming in'. If there was meddling in the US elections they were most likely involved. Surely their data bases should by now have revealed as to whom the data was sold to.

This talk about war in Syria is MOST dangerous, it would make the Iraq fiasco look like a storm in a teacup. Russia are in there on the side of Asad. Should a Russian jet get shot down or Russian troops killed then we could have Armageddon.

It has been two/three years since Assad was last the bad guy. It all went quiet on that score for a long time while he was fighting ISIS. Now that it appears that he seems to have all but won that one, he is now the big baddie again.

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