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Old 16th April 2018, 21:59   #481 (permalink)
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I don't think it was about beating the British to anything myself, more like seeing the evidence & coming to the same conclusion. Not sure if he didn't do it without going to the French Parliament first either.
What evidence are you talking about, have I missed something. All I've seen is a YouTube video posted by the rebels and their western sponsored NGOs filmed after a military attack but acted out a gas attack. Certainly seems to have done the trick with our politicians so it won't be long before the next video and DT tweets set us off again.

And to think I actually voted for TM who today had the last minute idea of linking Syria and the Skipal affair as a backup excuse in case things go pear-shaped with the highly likely possibly Chlorine theory.

I despair; if you lumped all our politicians together and picked the best you couldn't make a decent government.
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Old 16th April 2018, 22:33   #482 (permalink)
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What evidence are you talking about, have I missed something. All I've seen is a YouTube video posted by the rebels and their western sponsored NGOs filmed after a military attack but acted out a gas attack. Certainly seems to have done the trick with our politicians so it won't be long before the next video and DT tweets set us off again.

And to think I actually voted for TM who today had the last minute idea of linking Syria and the Skipal affair as a backup excuse in case things go pear-shaped with the highly likely possibly Chlorine theory.

I despair; if you lumped all our politicians together and picked the best you couldn't make a decent government.

Why would we even look for evidence on YouTube? I would think the US/UK/France have other sources more reliable than YouTube.
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Old 16th April 2018, 22:52   #483 (permalink)
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US Ambassador to UN stated yesterday that the Us will be applying sanctions to to Russian firms that can be tied to the Assad regime. It should be noted that yet again these are not the sanctions under law that Trumpty should be invoking .

Reports now say that Trumpty will not sign off on the sanctions mentioned by Haley.
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Old 17th April 2018, 07:05   #484 (permalink)
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Why would we even look for evidence on YouTube? I would think the US/UK/France have other sources more reliable than YouTube.

Sadly history shows they sometimes dont- and still take action
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The search for truth in the rubble of Douma – and one doctor’s doubts over the chemical attack

Exclusive: Robert Fisk visits the Syria clinic at the centre of a global crisis


Eye witness accounts from the first independent Journalist to go there


https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8307726.html

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Fisks credentials and reputation are impeccable

Frankly if he says there was a gas attack then there was.

I don't think anyone would doubt the brutality on all sides in Syria it's the hypocrisy lies and double standards that leave a stink almost as toxic as the gas

No good guys there or in the skies above before or after last weekend

His and other reports do highlight one glaring omission that the West purposely continue - Assad and his govt do have very substantial support across Syria. It's the terrorists, the US sponsored Al Queda, ISIS and other ner do well factions who are the minority
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The search for truth in the rubble of Douma – and one doctor’s doubts over the chemical attack

Exclusive: Robert Fisk visits the Syria clinic at the centre of a global crisis


Eye witness accounts from the first independent Journalist to go there


https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8307726.html

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Sadly these independent reports will never be given the oxygen which they deserve. Not many people buy papers any longer and even fewer buy the broadsheets. In the meantime all that we will be allowed to hear is the government's version of events spouted by the BBC and copied almost verbatim by the other TV channels.

Thank God that there are still some decent journalists who are prepared to do something else other than spout government propaganda.
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All a hoax then...........that's a result for all concerned.
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I was listening to Syrian, living in London, who was disputing the gas attack idea - he had spoken to relatives in Syria.

Their view was that it has not happened, and made the point that it is the Syrian Army in that particular region, all of whom are volunteer Syrians (not mercenaries or foreigners) who are liberating their relatives and friends, so why would they try to gas them. The Rebels, on the other hand, have no links to the locals, use them as human shields, and have every motivation to gas them knowing that it will bring the Americans into the fight.

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All a hoax then...........that's a result for all concerned.
I think the problem is no one knows for certain


Certainly initial reports of scores dead seem to have been false as no doubt grisly pictures of corpses piled in the street victims of gas would have been shown by ISIS as they certainly know how to use the media.

So far, nothing, no photos of victims of chemicals..........apart from the Russian gentleman in London with the mild flu
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