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Old 7th January 2017, 13:39   #111 (permalink)
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I think I would be right in saying that the current threat with some urgency in Europe is not the KKK nor the Far Right, its radicals who represent Islam (or think they do).
The "Terror at German Christmas Market" was down to one despicable bunch of radical Islamic tw*ts............I'm not fooled by anyone making comparisons with other groups & I doubt if people across Europe are.
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I think I would be right in saying that the current threat with some urgency in Europe is not the KKK nor the Far Right, its radicals who represent Islam (or think they do).
The "Terror at German Christmas Market" was down to one despicable bunch of radical Islamic tw*ts............I'm not fooled by anyone making comparisons with other groups & I doubt if people across Europe are.

You would be correct that the current threat is more from radicals who profess to represent Islam (wrongly) but you must look to their aim, it is to divide both communities and to further their Ideology by causing a reaction a backlash against the Muslim community. To show to un-radicalized Muslims their sick propaganda of hatred towards Muslims is true.

Your right the KKK are not a threat to Europe but then again no one suggested they were ..... did they ??

.... But your wrong in thinking the European ultra right neo-nazis shouldn't be compared. As similarities are developing and all these types of groups have to start somewhere (luckily uk security services keeping a lid on it with bans and good intelligence )
But they can easily become just as deadly as any radicalized lone wolf from Daesh, as Jo Cox, unfortunately, found out.

These dangerous groups only need the right environment or reaction to an event to set them on the path of Terrorism , recently banned British neo-Nazi group National Action leader Renshaw, a one-time university organizer for the British National Party (BNP), said that white supremacists had to have that “killer instinct " which seemed to be taken to heart by an alleged group member in trying tried to behead a Sikh dentist thinking he was a Muslim.....inspired to be an ultra right Jihadi John .
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Breitbart lies , as usual

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ortmund-church

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You would be correct that the current threat is more from radicals who profess to represent Islam (wrongly) but you must look to their aim, it is to divide both communities and to further their Ideology by causing a reaction a backlash against the Muslim community. To show to un-radicalized Muslims their sick propaganda of hatred towards Muslims is true.

Your right the KKK are not a threat to Europe but then again no one suggested they were ..... did they ??

.... But your wrong in thinking the European ultra right neo-nazis shouldn't be compared. As similarities are developing and all these types of groups have to start somewhere (luckily uk security services keeping a lid on it with bans and good intelligence )
But they can easily become just as deadly as any radicalized lone wolf from Daesh, as Jo Cox, unfortunately, found out.

These dangerous groups only need the right environment or reaction to an event to set them on the path of Terrorism , recently banned British neo-Nazi group National Action leader Renshaw, a one-time university organizer for the British National Party (BNP), said that white supremacists had to have that “killer instinct " which seemed to be taken to heart by an alleged group member in trying tried to behead a Sikh dentist thinking he was a Muslim.....inspired to be an ultra right Jihadi John .
Certain elements in the Muslim communities both here & across Europe are doing a fine job of creating divisions. Many of which are home grown, visit Mosques daily & they consider themselves as true Muslims. Whatever Jihad John turned out to be, first & foremost he considered himself to be a true Muslim.
If your a Christian today & commit a murder your still a Christian tomorrow. Pretty sure that ALL religions are catered for in UK prisons, so for committing a crime you don't lose your religious following status.
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Hmmmm. Spurs a nice addition to your post re change of religion in prison is in this neck of the woods when unionist paramilitaries were in jail for murder they often " found the lord" round about when parole hearings were due. So there is actually a case for saying change of religion does happen in prison!!!!

Always thought it unfortunate for their victims that they didn't have this Damascus moment BEFORE committing barbarity
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