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Old 11th January 2017, 12:29   #11 (permalink)
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When he eventually pops his clogs Corbyn will be very sad no doubt and will extol his virtues no end. Thing is he will probably outlive Corbyn anyhow.
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I've had the odd disagreement with certain folk about the man\The Troubles. I asked a guy , what would you do if your community was under attack? And make no mistake , the Catholic people were under attack. The rigs in the North Sea are full of ex squaddies and I'll never forget years ago offshore an older guy telling me about his tour with the Black Watch. Still traumatised him and he bought himself out as soon as he could. What got him badly was that the orders to do what they did came from high above. He mentioned the shooting of an innocent young kid by a pyscho Corporal being the last straw for him. Our Government of the time were up to their necks involved with terrorists from the other side who were just as ruthless if not more. We need to look at who actually started the bombing. Look up the Dublin and Monaghan bombing. Our Government were involved in that and there too much evidence for them to deny it. Yes , McGuiness was a terrorist. But did way more for the peace process than any of our lot and probably helped to save a shed load of lives by eventually getting round the table with people who were linked to the torment people in his community were subjected to.
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Great post. To the point and devoid of any of the uneducated bile spouted by some.

I am wondering how the usual suspects on here would behave should they have been in a similar situation, deprived of democracy and being murdered by forces of the state. ?

MMG took great risks for peace and deserves great credit for it. If it wasn't for Sinn Fein pushing for democratic instructions and civil rights we would still have the bombs going off. Certainly the Unionist Terrorists and their British backers weren't pushing for such things, why should they when they already had everything their own way since the undemocratic inception of the statelet. Of course the afforementioned held out against democracy until they no longer could hold back the tide of world openion.
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So he used to be a terrorist, but he hasn,t had anybody murdered for a few years, so he,s now going for sainthood. With attitudes like that, is it any wonder that theres,s still trouble bubbling under the surface!
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So he used to be a terrorist, but he hasn,t had anybody murdered for a few years, so he,s now going for sainthood. With attitudes like that, is it any wonder that theres,s still trouble bubbling under the surface!
So tell us all Saint Laurence what would you have done had you been placed in the situation that MMG and the Catholic population in the North were in. ?
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Move to Cork !
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So tell us all Saint Laurence what would you have done had you been placed in the situation that MMG and the Catholic population in the North were in. ?
Anyone involved in breaking the law ,murders, extortion, illegal guns etc should be accountable, regardless what religion or Nationality they are.
Why should some people be in prison for 20 years and others are still walking the streets because they are in politics for the same offence?
If it was a former Protestant terrorist now in politics would you be saying the same?
I think your previous posts have already answered that!
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So he used to be a terrorist, but he hasn,t had anybody murdered for a few years, so he,s now going for sainthood. With attitudes like that, is it any wonder that theres,s still trouble bubbling under the surface!
The same can be said about another chap. African fellow. Nelson sumfin. Look , he was not an angel and will not be getting a sainthood any time soon. It was dark times then and terrible things were done on both sides. Our wonderful Government decided they couldn't fight on both fronts and picked a side. Joined up covertly with the UVF etc. So now the Catholic community had both the UVF etc and the British Army to contend with. Ask yourself what you would have done if your family and your community faced what these people were facing. Awful times and the Governments hands were just as dirty and managed get theirs dirty first. Just for anyones info , I'm a Jock. A proddy Rangers supporter to boot. But I'm also a fanatical amateur historian who likes to delve into the the stuff the British schools won't teach you. I also worked over and lived in NI. I have good friends from both sides of the divide. The version our wonderful Government sponsored media gave us is waaaaay , waaay short of what actually happened.
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