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Old 5th March 2017, 11:34   #11 (permalink)
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I thought you would have been totally opposed to the "careerist privileged establishment knows best" types -over the ordinary man in the street
You have to deal with what you've got. There's very few Conservative MPs who truly know anything about the man on the street, unfortunately over the last few years Labour MPs are moving towards the same position............its exactly as you say, "careerist".
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Well when a guy who is a committed Tory makes out he is favourable to the SDP to get elected to the Oxford Union it does set a tone.

I like the guy I have to admit and most who know him (I don't) seem to, even when he insults them. I did cringe when he was made FM but perhaps TM knows the guy better and relies on him disarming detractors. If he charms Putin then so be it, lets face it good old Trump seems to be having dialog.
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Well when a guy who is a committed Tory makes out he is favourable to the SDP to get elected to the Oxford Union it does set a tone.

I like the guy I have to admit and most who know him (I don't) seem to, even when he insults them. I did cringe when he was made FM but perhaps TM knows the guy better and relies on him disarming detractors. If he charms Putin then so be it, lets face it good old Trump seems to be having dialog.
I only by chance read this morning that Putin had threatened to level the Kingdom of Saudi & put them all back in tents. Who knows perhaps he can convert BJ.
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If Putin did say that, let's hope he follows through
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His "disgust" at "evil regime" in Syria contrasting with his nauseating brown nosing to the Saudis is one of many examples of how shallow and self serving he is
Saoirse- I am no Tory but your comment re Saudis would apply to all Boris's predecessors (and their bosses) in my voting lifetime - irrespective of what govt was in power. When trade is the be all and end all - then morals and ethics fly out the window. In a painful interview with Jon Snow just prior to his downfall I heard David Cameron squirm and dodge questions around UK policy with the Saudis. Eventually he got so brassed off with the persistent grilling that he blurted out that the main justification for close links with such a heinous dictatorship was " security- the Saudis are so important to UK intelligence services re the Middle Eastern terrorist threat". The irony lies in the fact that the Saudis are and have been prolific exporters and funders of Islamic terrorism.

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Saoirse- I am no Tory but your comment re Saudis would apply to all Boris's predecessors (and their bosses) in my voting lifetime - irrespective of what govt was in power. When trade is the be all and end all - then morals and ethics fly out the window. In a painful interview with Jon Snow just prior to his downfall I heard David Cameron squirm and dodge questions around UK policy with the Saudis. Eventually he got so brasses off with the persistent grilling that the main justification for close links with such a heinous dictatorship was " security- the Saudis are so important to UK intelligence services re terrorist threat". The irony lies in the fact that the Saudis are and have been prolific in sponsoring Islamic terrorism.
The same applies to Russia, it currently supplies 34% of the EUs energy needs, the EU wants to continue to burn the gas & not the supplier. Seems every country that holds oil/gas is either a target by the West or one hell of a devious "friend".
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It nauseates me how for years British politicians have bent over backwards to Saudi, maybe BJ will take a different position to Saudi leaders (pun intended).
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Old 5th March 2017, 13:45   #18 (permalink)
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Saudi one of the biggest oil producers in the world, America this biggest user.........what happens when it runs out? Cold turkey.
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Boris is the total epitome of chinless wonder privileged careerist opportunist politicians.

If it suited his personal ambitions and selfish ego to about-turn on any issue he would do it in a heartbeat

His "disgust" at "evil regime" in Syria contrasting with his nauseating brown nosing to the Saudis is one of many examples of how shallow and self serving he is
And your evidence for this is .... ? Like it or not, he was a great mayor of London and made a fantastic job of the Olympics, a project which required huge logistics skill and attention to detail ... maybe he delegated the tasks, but being able to choose the right people is also a demonstration of intelligence!

Personally I am not keen on privileged sociatlists who have a lifestyle much better than most of us can afford, you know who you are!!
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Saoirse- I am no Tory but your comment re Saudis would apply to all Boris's predecessors (and their bosses) in my voting lifetime - irrespective of what govt was in power. When trade is the be all and end all - then morals and ethics fly out the window. In a painful interview with Jon Snow just prior to his downfall I heard David Cameron squirm and dodge questions around UK policy with the Saudis. Eventually he got so brassed off with the persistent grilling that he blurted out that the main justification for close links with such a heinous dictatorship was " security- the Saudis are so important to UK intelligence services re the Middle Eastern terrorist threat". The irony lies in the fact that the Saudis are and have been prolific exporters and funders of Islamic terrorism.
And so- even with gritted teeth it is correct to remain friends with the Saudis as they are our chief ally in that area of the world and the security of the British people is paramount
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