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Old 8th April 2017, 11:36   #11 (permalink)
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Get rid of Ken then that puts Labour back on track.................AS IF.
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The sad thing about all this is that he was by all accounts a very good London Mayor, but will now be remembered for this outburst rather than the good he did for London.

Though on second thoughts I do think anyone who collects newts (and man-hole covers cf Corbyn) possibly isn't the best top politico material..
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The sad thing about all this is that he was by all accounts a very good London Mayor
Hmm, not really, unless I have the wrong definition of 'all' that is.
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As aLondon resident and employee i do not accept that KL was not a good Mayor at all.

His policies and programmes always put London and Londoners first , the bus and tube network never carried as much traffic per capita / population , so cheaply.

Ken was good for London.

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You are of course entitled to YOUR opinion Steve, but you do not speak for `all`, many will agree with your opinion but many will not.

https://www.timeout.com/london/thing...stone-on-trial

An interesting read amongst others.
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If this isn't a veiled threat then I don't know what is. I'm wondering now how Labours Executive will deal with Ken Livingstone & others. What if the leader of Unite steps in on their decision(s) making with threats of "accountability".


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The problem for Labour is that using the definition of "anti-Semite" used by Corbyn´s current critics, the majority of the party would probably qualify. For example: if anyone supports the Palestinian right to return to their homeland, that undermines the Jewish state´s right to exist and they are classed as anti-Semite. Any criticism of Israel´s policy of expanding settlements = ditto. Voice support for any enemy of the state = ditto etc. etc.

Unless you are whole heartedly behind everything that state does, and never utter an objection, you can be picked off by one-or-other of the hard-line groups as anti-Semitic. Labour, and especially Corbyn and Livingstone, could never agree to that: and nor should they.

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Very well put imho Ian .

Unemotive , shrewdly put . Factual .

Imagine if the " Windrush Generation " were in fact Jewish ?

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Very well put imho Ian .

Unemotive , shrewdly put . Factual .

Imagine if the " Windrush Generation " were in fact Jewish ?

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What's happened re the Windrush Generation is a complete & utter disgrace & to be fair for many cases even compensation will not make it right. The comparison though is this, one can at least be attempted to get sorted out, the other has been flying around on the fringes of the Labour Party for years and IMO will continue.
On the side though is the Len Mcckluskey intervention, that to me is a Union leader threatening MPs..........unacceptable in my book. Anyone who watched various MPs standing up in Westminster reading out some of the despicable emails & attacks on social media aimed at them should take heed.
John Mann gets threats that his daughter will be raped..........what are these people like?
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What did KL say ?

Have any of these " attacks " been attributed to genuine labour members ?

Odd how May has not been called on to speak about the racist incident below :

Tweets about JEWS and AIDS 'made by 23-year-old Tory George Stoakley | Daily Mail Online

As for John Mann his Momentum , dead pigeon racist attack on his wife has nothing to do with racism or Jewishness , and nothing to do with Momentum as it happened in 2012 , odd he forgot that .

The lunatic who sent it did so in direct criticism ( unfairly ) as he was denied a Labour post in favour ( rightly so ) of Mann's wife .

Mann is a liar , loved by the right wing press and the BBC .

As for McClusky , the Trade union movement is legally allowed to fund whom they so wish and not forced to support anyone they do not . Mann is financed partly by trade union donations .

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