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Old 18th April 2017, 08:21   #1 (permalink)
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I am not a supporter of the death penalty but if these low life's do get executed I for one will lose no sleep.

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The top court in Arkansas has halted two executions that were due to start a series of seven in 11 days. The state's Supreme Court acted hours before convicted murderers Don Davis and Bruce Ward were due to die, but the Davis decision could yet be reversed.

Their lawyers had argued they were mentally unfit to face execution and were denied proper assessment. But there was a victory for the state when a federal court lifted an order that blocked all seven executions. A blanket ruling made on Saturday that the executions could not go ahead because the lethal injection causes suffering has been overruled.

The unprecedented pace at which Arkansas will put the seven men to death has drawn international attention.

It is driven by the state's desire to use a batch of drugs before it expires later this month. But it has been condemned by critics as an inhumane "assembly line".

What happened on Monday?

There were two rulings - in the first, the Arkansas Supreme Court stayed the executions of Davis and Ward, in a 4-3 decision. They have each spent more than 20 years on death row.

The state attorney general's office said it would not appeal against the stay for Ward. It did appeal against the stay for Davis but the US Supreme Court upheld it in a last minute decision on Monday. Davis had already been served his last meal and moved to the Cummins Unit, which holds the lethal injection gurney. In the other decision, the 8th US Circuit Court of Appeals in St Louis cancelled the weekend ruling to halt all seven executions.

What did all these men do?

Eight were originally set to die, before Jason McGehee was spared

Bruce Ward - Strangled teenage shop clerk Rebecca Doss

Don Davis - Condemned for the execution-style killing of Jane Daniel as he burgled her home

Stacey Johnson - Murdered Carol Heath, who was beaten, strangled and had her throat slit

Ledell Lee - Bludgeoned Debra Reese to death with a tyre iron her husband had given her for protection

Jack Jones - Condemned for the rape and murder of accounts clerk Mary Phillips, and the nearly fatal beating of her 11-year-old daughter

Marcel Williams - Raped and murdered Stacey Erickson, after kidnapping her from a convenience store

Kenneth Williams - Murdered farmer Cecil Boren during an escape from prison where Williams had been incarcerated for murdering cheerleader Dominique Hurd

Why is there so much uncertainty?

Like many US states, Arkansas has struggled to find the drugs it needs to carry out executions. Its last was in 2005.

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The state's use of midazolam in its three-drug cocktail is controversial, because opponents of the death penalty say it is not effective at rendering the inmate unconscious.

The drug raised concerns after it was used in executions in three US states in 2014 that took longer than usual.

There are five more executions in Arkansas scheduled to happen by the end of April, so expect daily legal arguments on both sides.

The state is determined these executions be carried out, but those who have campaigned against the methods of execution will do all they can to block them.

Arkansas executions: Court spares life of two convicted killers - BBC News
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Old 18th April 2017, 08:36   #2 (permalink)
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I find no argument needed Norman , either you believe in state sponsored killing of those deemed unworthy of living , or you do not.

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I wonder how the people who are campaigning against would feel if it was one of their loved ones who had been raped/killed
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Come on Ted that old chestnuts worn out as the reverse is equally valid-I wonder how those in favour would feel if a loved one wrongfully convicted was executed
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Keeping anyone on 'death row' for 20 years is inhumane in my book.
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I wonder how the people who are campaigning against would feel if it was one of their loved ones who had been raped/killed


......................or had someone put to death and they are innocent
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I have never been an advocate of the death penalty, though there are tımes I saıd ''No loss there then''.What gets me wıth some people's opınıon ıs they agree with ıt for coppers and kıds but for anythıng else ıts barbaric.Is one lıfe worth less than another's?
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counties that had the Death penalty have less crime lol! so does it work ....mmmmm NO.

opp! just take the bit about here out , I did read where then got carried away lol!
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Who says the death penalty will be for rape . murder ????? think its only going to be for political reasons lets see ??? and the counties that had the Death penalty have less crime lol! so does it work ....mummmm NO.
Not sure ıf your readıng from the same page as the rest of us Ann.Sınce when was Arkansas ın Turkey.??
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Not sure ıf your readıng from the same page as the rest of us Ann.Sınce when was Arkansas ın Turkey.??
opps! got carried away. Thanks for pointing it out to me think I should have been on another forum with that.
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