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Old 18th April 2017, 15:12   #21 (permalink)
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Re: UK General Election June 8th

Just wondering how it would've worked if it was only Wales who voted to remain in the EU & the rest of the UK had voted leave? Would England, Scotland & NI have listened to them?
People have quite rightly pointed out that TM had no real mandate of her own, be joyous folks because we are about to get one............which in my mind is already sitting on her desk inside Number 10.
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This is news to me Spurs-she's standing here to get a mandate? And in Scotland will she accept she has none there either if they get thrashed there again?
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Old 18th April 2017, 15:36   #23 (permalink)
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This is news to me Spurs-she's standing here to get a mandate? And in Scotland will she accept she has none here either if they get thrashed there again?
A British PM stands for the whole of the UK, Sturgeon stands only for Scotland.

Lets be honest here, this calling of a GE is still about Brexit. I don't want the UK to break up BUT the leaving of the EU is a bigger priority to me, once out I would not object to Scotland, NI or Wales having a referendum to leave the United kingdom.
At this moment in time they all make up the UK & the UK has a PM who acts for all, it might not suit all but thats the way it is.
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Re: UK General Election June 8th

You see here's the problem Spurs-you cannot have a la carte mandates

The British parties do not stand here-2 of them don't even exist here- yet we are told that they have a mandate to rule here

Then on the one occasion in recent times when this place was included in a plebiscite-our vote to Remain wasn't counted then either

Don't get me wrong all this duplicity and dishonesty is power to the elbow of those of us wanting a decline in the UK as it perfectly highlights the duplicitous dishonesty of the British rulers-(or more precisely our freedom from it) but let's not change the rules or qualifications of when a vote counts just to suit opportunist politicians
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So Mayhem wants a mandate. Brave man
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You see here's the problem Spurs-you cannot have a la carte mandates

The British parties do not stand here-2 of them don't even exist here- yet we are told that they have a mandate to rule here

Then on the one occasion in recent times when this place was included in a plebiscite-our vote to Remain wasn't counted then either

Don't get me wrong all this duplicity and dishonesty is power to the elbow of those of us wanting a decline in the UK as it perfectly highlights the duplicitous dishonesty of the British rulers-(or more precisely our freedom from it) but let's not change the rules or qualifications of when a vote counts just to suit opportunist politicians
But its not about "here" is it? Its about the whole of the UK. If rUK voted remain & NI voted leave, what then? Would rUK be expected to adhere to the NI result & remain in the EU?
Each Party can now put out their mandate be they old or new & let the people decide again.
I think a GE was needed.
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Re: UK General Election June 8th

From a Brexiteer that's somewhat hypocritical to put it mildly!!!

One of the war crys of the Brexit brigade was -why should our lives be subject to the rule of people who don't even stand here for election

Or is it different for us ?

As regards your last sentence I say yet again the British ruling parties don't exist here!!!!! ( Tories stood a couple of times best result was 0.3% of the vote-the other 2 do not exist here!!!)
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Re: UK General Election June 8th

Philip you really ought to study history and then you may understand what the UK actually means to the populace of it. The votes were taken from the populace of the UK, end of.

If Scotland subsequently leaves the UK then they will no longer vote as members of it nor be bound by the UK collective.

The Scots should blame Robert the Bruce anyway, if Braveheart is to be believed. LOL
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Re: UK General Election June 8th

Bickern do you mean what the UK means to little Englanders-can assure you that's VERY different to how it's viewed here, trust me on that one lol!!!


I think you need to study 700 years of Irish history and show me where the mandate is today, lol

Meanwhile where's the British main parties mandate here?
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Corbayn is a real gift to wee krankie because those who do not want to vote for a party with a terrorist loving leader have now to decide where to put their cross.

The analysts will look at percentage changes when the dust settles after Scotland's vote and wee krankie will say that every vote for the SNP was a vote for another referendum and independence; of course some may vote alternative or abstain.

Tricky situation and will be interesting that is for sure.
A no brainer,Ruth Davidson and the Scottish tories will love this and will have more than one seat come the 9th of june.
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