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Old 22nd April 2017, 12:54   #1 (permalink)
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Post Theresa May wants British people to feel 'pride' in the Balfour Declaration.

Theresa May wants British people to feel 'pride' in the Balfour Declaration. What exactly is there to be proud of?

Balfour initiated a policy of British support for Israel which continues to this very day, to the detriment of the occupied Palestinians of the West Bank and the five million Palestinian refugees living largely in warrens of poverty around the Middle East, including Israeli-besieged Gaza. Surely we should apologise?

Theresa May told us that Britain will celebrate the centenary of the Balfour Declaration this summer with “pride”. This was predictable. A British prime minister who would fawn to the head-chopping Arab autocrats of the Gulf in the hope of selling them more missiles – and then hold the hand of the insane new anti-Muslim president of the United States – was bound, I suppose, to feel “pride” in the most mendacious, deceitful and hypocritical document in modern British history.

As a woman who has set her heart against immigrants, it was also inevitable that May would display her most venal characteristics to foreigners – to wealthy Arab potentates, and to an American president whose momentary love of Britain might produce a life-saving post-Brexit trade agreement. It was to an audience of British lobbyists for Israel a couple of months ago that she expressed her “pride” in a century-old declaration which created millions of refugees. But to burnish the 1917 document which promised Britain’s support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine but which would ultimately create that very refugee population – refugees being the target of her own anti-immigration policies – is little short of iniquitous.

The Balfour Declaration’s intrinsic lie – that while Britain supported a Jewish homeland, nothing would be done “which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine” – is matched today by the equally dishonest response of Balfour’s lamentable successor at the Foreign Office. Boris Johnson wrote quite accurately two years ago that the Balfour Declaration was “bizarre”, a “tragicomically incoherent” document, “an exquisite piece of Foreign Office fudgerama”. But in a subsequent visit to Israel, the profit-hunting Mayor of London suddenly discovered that the Balfour Declaration was “a great thing” that “reflected a great tide of history”. No doubt we shall hear more of this same nonsense from Boris Johnson later this year.

Although the Declaration itself has been parsed, de-semanticised, romanticised, decrypted, decried, cursed and adored for 100 years, its fraud is easy to detect: it made two promises which were fundamentally opposed to each other – and thus one of them, to the Arabs (aka “the existing non-Jewish communities”), would be broken. The descendants of these victims, the Palestinian Arabs, are now threatening to sue the British government over this pernicious piece of paper, a hopeless and childish response to history. The Czechs might equally sue the British for Chamberlain’s Munich agreement, which allowed Hitler to destroy their country. The Palestinians would also like an apology – since the British have always found apologies cheaper than law courts. The British have grown used to apologising – for the British empire, for the slave trade, for the Irish famine. So why not for Balfour? Yes, but.... Theresa May needs the Israelis far more than she needs the Palestinians.

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Re: Theresa May wants British people to feel 'pride' in the Balfour Declaration.

Totally agree, this is a prime example of the mess the British Empire left behind as it sunk into decline and finally collapse. Many of the conflicts around the world can be traced back to inept British interventions such as this.
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Re: Theresa May wants British people to feel 'pride' in the Balfour Declaration.

As usual with Britain's perfidious deeds in Palestine , the figure of the Rothschild's looms large over British thinking , how shameful that Britain still denies the truth of the continuous Zionist oppression of the Palestinian people.

Palestine has few friends.

The Rothschilds have a lot of money and influence.

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Re: Theresa May wants British people to feel 'pride' in the Balfour Declaration.

Well said all of you.
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Totally agree, this is a prime example of the mess the British Empire left behind as it sunk into decline and finally collapse. Many of the conflicts around the world can be traced back to inept British interventions such as this.
Likewise, as the Belgian Empire SANK into decline in Congo etc; the French Empire SANK into decline across the Far East together with the Dutch in Indonesia, Germans across Africa. There's more, I'm sure, but my history education is not that good.

Why do we keep on beating ourselves up about the past when we cannot change it? do the French, Germans, etc do it? Would it be preferable to censor history and whitewash the past?
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Likewise, as the Belgian Empire SANK into decline in Congo etc; the French Empire SANK into decline across the Far East together with the Dutch in Indonesia, Germans across Africa. There's more, I'm sure, but my history education is not that good.

Why do we keep on beating ourselves up about the past when we cannot change it? do the French, Germans, etc do it? Would it be preferable to censor history and whitewash the past?
Its only when you look at the countries operating in Africa & the ME both in business along with military involvement, it make you wonder if they ever gave these places up & if they did, they seem now to want them back.
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I think you would find that China is one of the biggest investors in Africa today, and possibly S America too. They are buying up land and farms and getting into lots of basic resources, like mining etc. I seem to remember that Turkey put a stop to foreign ownership of more than a set amount of farmland some years ago when they discovered that much of the best land was going to foreign ownership.
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Likewise, as the Belgian Empire SANK into decline in Congo etc; the French Empire SANK into decline across the Far East together with the Dutch in Indonesia, Germans across Africa. There's more, I'm sure, but my history education is not that good.

Why do we keep on beating ourselves up about the past when we cannot change it? do the French, Germans, etc do it? Would it be preferable to censor history and whitewash the past?
It is not about beating ourselves up, more about being honest about the mess the UK has left around the world as the empire collapsed. The UK has much to be proud of and equally it has as much to be ashamed of. Other countries have similar pasts, but the original post was about the UK and the impact on the middle east. Much of the problems in the middle east stem from the UK administration and inept drawing of almost random lines to create borders that often made little or no sense on the ground and for the people living in the aftermath of this line drawing.
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Re: Theresa May wants British people to feel 'pride' in the Balfour Declaration.

So true Cside , that is the price you pay for jobs going to titles and relatives rather than professionals.

Off to the Tower with me now.

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