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Old 19th August 2017, 10:54   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Child Grooming, shadow Minister Resigns

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This is the sort of thing that allows these abusive networks to survive; if anyone is brave enough to speak about the elephant in the room, they are silenced. This is a symptom of the politically correct British middle class liberalism.

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People are more than aware with what's been going on & I have a feeling the relevant authorities are now starting to get a grip of it. I would like to think that its for the children's sake & not for the own jobs/reputations !!
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Re: Child grooming shadow Secretary of State for women resigns

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Sarah Champion has just conclusively proven one of the points she and others have been trying to make.

That by simply mentioning, let alone trying to discuss the ethnic or religious make-up of these grooming gangs, that this is more or less forbidden by the establishment and to do so has devastating consequences.
She stated Pakistani , the truth is somewhat different , she pretended that she had not said it , the Sun ( spit ) had proof , make what you want of it , your lies and misrepresentations merely weaken you .

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Re: Child grooming shadow Secretary of State for women resigns

By preventing discussion in such matters, we deny ourselves the ability to consider all aspects of these cases.

From a neutral point of view, it maybe the case that these men are Muslim and had a tendency to view white working-class women as "easy meat white trash" had possibly something to do with their actions.

Equally, it may have not been a factor at all. It is only by openly debating the matter will we be able to conclusively find out. If there is a connection, steps can be taken. However, by not having ANY debate, the problem continues to escalate out of control.

Debate, is of course, the very last thing you want - you just want people like me to shut up and do as you say, because I suspect you know I'm right!
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Re: Child grooming shadow Secretary of State for women resigns

IMHO it should be debated , free speech is to be cherished not only in the UK. And yes Pedophile brought out in the light ,but thier is a caveat to that , so should other pedophile cases that are happening in Politics, Football, Entertainment, Church, Sex Tourism and Internet grooming, as don't the young victim's in these cases deserve equal protection and cases uncovered and a public spotlight shone.

So yes debated but not polarized to one section of the community and politized by the right and ultra-right to tie-in with their anti migrant and Islamaphobic agenda.

The woman lives up to her name Champion, Champion of these young girls so shouldn't be silenced and dismissed from the position, and certainly, not just for her use of the wrong words .. a reprimand would have been enough. As more of her caring but proactive types are needed in the world. It shows her good judgment and trust that she picked the Left to represent, to her constituents after what happened in the past in her area. As she seems fully aware of the agenda of the right having had run ins with the BNP.
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