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Old 3rd January 2019, 23:56   #21 (permalink)
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So you lost your reply when posting, added zilch to topic, insulted another member, (couldn’t even spell his name correctly!)
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Old 4th January 2019, 08:54   #22 (permalink)
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When it comes to what we believe or don't believe I think it's a fascinating insight into our own psyche intelligence indeed entire personality

Personally whilst never becoming a flat earther- in this era of fake news, govt bull**** etc I find healthy scepticism both refreshing and more realistic

There will always be those who prefer and are more comfortable to touch the forelock, bow to authority " facts" and accept what they're told- regardless of how discredited these " authentic/reliable" sources have been in the past.

Trust your own judgements no one elses- especially those establishment sources with vested interests .

On 9/11 itself theres no doubt those responsible whatever way you cut it were acceptable to the US regime either at the time or certainly after the event ( it's hard to keep track of when Bin Laden/ Al Queda etc were considered good/ bad guys as the US regime have flip flopped so many times from considering them heroes / terrorists)

That in itself should highlight why the clear cut version from the Whitehouse needs taken with a large pinch of salt
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Old 4th January 2019, 09:04   #23 (permalink)
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I can't understand why people get so het up trying to convince other people that their conviction is correct. As saoirse says there is spin everywhere we look these days and I cannot think of any government on earth that I would trust implicity. Meanwhile the sun is shining so I am off out into the garden.
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I think it worth adding Ibrahim that Moderators information views etc are indeed 100% correct reliable and authentic
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Right now Im having a right barney with an American friend here who disdains all MSM and has given me a list of 'trustworthy sources'

The Ring of Fire
Truthdig
Truthout
Chris Hedges
Joseph Wolf
Robert Reich
Noam Chomsky
Democracy Now
Haaretz
Jimmy Dore
The Intercept
The Young Turks
Mintpressnews.org
Julian Assange
wikileaks
Dr. Norman Finklestein
Gideon Levy
Glenn Greenwald
Bernie Sanders

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To me these are mostly bloggers that express their own biased views and are not subject to any censure what do other members think?

And what sources are to be trusted?
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Indeed bloggers do present their own slant- just like every govt do

Trust only your own instincts.

Sometimes you will get it right other times not but in the 21st century for anyone to carte blanche accept any govts " trustworthy info" is just plain daft
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I can't believe that all MSM is government controlled.
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As I say make your own judgements

I would suggest thesedays very very few intelligent people would for instance accept something as fact solely because it was presented in a newspaper. 15/20 years ago it would have been accepted as gospel

But don't expect many others to accept your arguments if the basis of your info is aligned to any govt or associated news outlet
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I can't understand why people get so het up trying to convince other people that their conviction is correct. As saoirse says there is spin everywhere we look these days and I cannot think of any government on earth that I would trust implicity. Meanwhile the sun is shining so I am off out into the garden.
There will always be the "truthers" who don't want to believe "any" official version even when confronted with the truth, like Obama's birthplace ,religion and nationality. Or the fact that 9/11 couldn't be down to, just something as simple as senseless random violence, the very hallmark of al Qaeda's crusade at the time, as seen by their 1998 African Embassy bombings which killed mainly innocents.

I agree, its healthy not to be accepting of all that is said, to question and listen to various alternatives and not to give your implicit trust ... but the ridiculous is easy sussed. It also isn't hard to see through, but good to highlight, or poke a stick at ... when you see sometimes an agenda ridden use of a conspiracy theory , being driven by political opposites, or some who have an irrational historical bitter hate of particular nation or government. So they champion a conspiracy theory or some nation states nonsensical alternative of their so called truth....

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What I am questioning is why it bothers anyone what others believe in. I really don't care a toss if someone thinks it is true or a conspiracy.
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