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Old 25th September 2017, 17:54   #1 (permalink)
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Turkish flag ferry ban to Greece

Türk bayrakl? ticari yatlar?n ve yolcu gemilerinin Yunan adalar?na sefer yapmas? yasakland?

I have a friend who owns a ferry company which runs between Turkey and a Greek island. They were notified today that the Turkish marine transport ministry will ban Turkish flagged vessels from travelling to Greece from the 12th October.

This is just 'breaking news' so very little information as to why and for how long this ban will be in place.

Just a heads up.

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Old 25th September 2017, 22:22   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Turkish flag ferry ban to Greece

Maybe this has something to do with it.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/ne...0703-0023.html

The coast guard said they were attempting to search the ship’s cargo after receiving a tip that they were transporting narcotics
The captain of a Turkish freighter says Greek coast guard opened fire on his ship after he refused an order to dock on the Greek island of Rhodes Monday.

Turkey denounced the act, stating it was “disproportionate” and showed serious disregard for the sailors on board.

"There is no justification ... for firing on an unarmed commercial ship carrying freight between two Turkish ports," the Foreign Ministry said in a statement. "Our sole consolation is that nobody was killed or injured as a result of the incident."

Sami Kalkavan who captained the MV/ACT, told CNN Turk in an interview that the ship had retrieved its cargo from a Turkish port and was cruising through theMediterraneann waters in the direction of the Izmit Bay in the Sea of Marmara.

"The coast guard asked for the ship to be docked at the port at Rhodes immediately, and we did not accept this. They wanted to check (the ship), and we didn't accept that," he said. When the captain refused to comply, the officer fired on the carrier, pounding 16 bullet holes through the vessel.

“They said they would fire if we didn't stop, they did what they said. Now there are 16 holes in the ship,” Kalkavan said, without indicating why he had not wanted the ship to be inspected. He said there was no risk of water intake from the bullet holes and no crew members suffered injury.

The coast guard defended their actions, stating they were attempting to search the ship’s cargo after receiving an anonymous tip that they were transporting narcotics.

On refusing to dock, the ship moved back into Turkish waters. The broadcaster NTV reported that two Turkish coast guard ships were at the scene, and quoted Turkey's Foreign Ministry as saying it was in contact with the relevant authorities and promising “similar events will never happen again.”

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/ne...0703-0023.html
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Old 26th September 2017, 06:05   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Turkish flag ferry ban to Greece

I could not see whether the ship was in International or Greek waters at the time. all it said was that after the incident the ship moved back into Turkish waters. surely if it was in Greek waters then it was obliged to obey the Greek authorities.
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Re: Turkish flag ferry ban to Greece

Not if it DID have contraband on board, but surely the Turkish coast guard would have searched it when it docked so I am presuming it didn't have any, unless they managed to get it overboard first, on the opposite side to where the Turkish coastguard was escorting them.

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Re: Turkish flag ferry ban to Greece

The Transport Ministry issued a ban on Turkish-flagged commercial yachts and regular passenger ships sailing to Greece as of Sept. 25 after the Greek authorities seized 11 vessels for allegedly violating a maritime regulation overseeing the quality of international sea transportation.

In a statement sent to regional port authorities, the ministry banned the sailing of Turkish-flagged commercial yacths to Greece as of Sept. 25, as well as regular passenger ships as of Oct. 12, citing the Paris Memorandum of Understanding on Port State Control (Paris MoU) inspections.

Transport Minister Ahmet Arslan said Athens’ measures put Turkey’s position as a “white flag” country at risk, with a potential downgrade to “gray flag” status.

“As of today we have stopped the sailing of commercial yachts to Greece. The fact that Greece started to inspect and seize such small commercial vessels, shorter than 24 meters, by claiming that they did not comply with the rules, began to put at risk Turkey’s status as a white flag country. This is unacceptable,” Arslan told state broadcaster TRT Haber on Sept. 25.

“We have also warned our correspondents and sent our experts there. We said that if Greece changes this exception, our commercial yachts will travel to Greek islands and contribute to your trade. But we will not allow those vessels to sail as long as Greece maintains its attitude regarding this rule,” he said, adding that he would discuss the issue with his Greek counterpart on Oct. 12 during his visit to the country.

Meanwhile, Samos Star, a firm operating between Turkey’s Seferihisar coast and the Greek island of Samos, told passengers about the authorities’ decision to ban the sailing of commercial yachts to Greek waters.

According to reports, the seizure of four commercial yachts bound for the Greek islands of Kos and Rhodes, as well as a freighter off the port of Kalamaki, played a role in the ministry’s move.

A number of firms operating tours to Greek islands have also announced that they would halt their plans as of Oct. 12, though some said they have not received any official text on the issue.

Bodrum Sailors Association head Mustafa Demiröz said the issue should be resolved through dialogue.

“Eleven of our yachts and ships have been seized by the Greek authorities up to now. If another yacht or ship is seized, we will be downgraded from white flag status, which symbolizes quality in terms of sea transport, to gray flag. After that comes black flag status. The ministry is considering these facts,” Demiröz told the Doğan News Agency.

The latest measures are mostly expected to affect travel from the Aegean Turkish coasts of Bodrum, Marmaris, Kuşadası, Dikili and Ayvalık to Greece, as sailors demanded a review of the ministry’s decision.
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Re: Turkish flag ferry ban to Greece

We just changed our sailing from 14th Oct to 11th. This is with the previous regular ferry from Ayvalik to Lesvos.
Not sure how we shall get back, but we will work something out!
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On Lesvos now and a Greek friend tells us that negotiations today led to the announcement that ferries will recommence in January. I have not yet managed to confirm this.
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Re: Turkish flag ferry ban to Greece

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On Lesvos now and a Greek friend tells us that negotiations today led to the announcement that ferries will recommence in January. I have not yet managed to confirm this.
That can't be right the meeting doesn't happen until later today....
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We just changed our sailing from 14th Oct to 11th. This is with the previous regular ferry from Ayvalik to Lesvos.
Not sure how we shall get back, but we will work something out!
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Re: Turkish flag ferry ban to Greece

Thanks Suzq! For interjecting some clarity into the insanity.... It shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone that some or many Turkish commercial vessels' safety and quality standards leave much to be desired... so probably best to address the issue... it's a good thing... I wish similar moves were introduced to oversee such activities such as ballooning, paragliding, use of jetskis and motorboats, etc... there business would be better for it... As for firing on a ship traversing two Turkish ports (sure, after they were intercepted they WOULD say they were headed to a Turkish port, likely excuse) ... sounds like the type of lunacy that occurs from the escalating of tensions on both sides...
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