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Old 28th November 2019, 14:28   #91 (permalink)
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Well if it's a problem chips you could just say, your talking out of your arse . Racist problem bitti
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Old 28th November 2019, 16:57   #93 (permalink)
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It was actually a question on Daily Politics, it just made me think. Not a phrase I have ever used but I do know a few Sikhs & yes at times I could well have used it.
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Yes, if the person in question was offended by your remark. Then expect a visit or even an interview under caution by the West Midlands police. You will then have, in effect, a criminal record, as the complaint by itself, is sufficient for you to be found guilty, as explained in the video at #89.

I maybe old fashioned, but I thought the police are there to investigate real crime. There is a supposedly 20,000 shortfall in police officers. But instead of investigating actual crimes like murder, rape, robbery, knife crime, burglary etc, they investigate he said, she said on twitter and collect data on non-crimes and end up defaming innocent people.

At the actual High Court case involving Harry Miller that started a few days ago, the judge in his opening remarks said this-

"The idea that a law-abiding citizen can have their name recorded against a hate incident on a crime report when there was neither hate nor crime undermines principles of justice, free expression, democracy and common sense, he said.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...t-hears-police

So a good start. I will be following this case with interest.
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Excellent post Rose , thanks the one justification that the college cites :

“The role of British police today goes beyond bringing offenders to justice when they commit crimes,” the College argued in written submissions, adding that “police now take an active role in the resolution of conflict within and between communities.”

Is imho refuted in it's entireity , if the Police investigated every serious crime , then they may have the time for other matters , however with many crimes disregarded completely then they should attend to crime properly first .

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Our daughter (RAF Police) was attending a lecture about honour killing. The civi policeman giving the lecture was asked by her what can be done about it ? His reply. Nothing we can do about it !!!! You couldn't make it up. It was interesting to hear all the various nations that commit those crimes. Not just the ones that immediately spring to mind !
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"A woman who lost her job after saying that people cannot change their biological sex has lost an employment tribunal.

Maya Forstater, 45, did not have her contract renewed after posting a series of tweets questioning government plans to let people declare their own gender.

Ms Forstater believes trans women holding certificates that recognise their transgender identity cannot describe themselves as women.

But that view is "not worthy of respect in a democratic society", a judge said."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50858919

The following day, J.K. Rowling tweeted the following-

"Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult wholl have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?"

Since then, Rowling has been the subject of non stop abuse for daring to voice an opinion. Having read the above several times, I don't see anything in her tweet that was "anti trans." It is also a freedom of speech issue.

Even if Rowling's tweet was anti-trans and Maya's tweets were anti-trans, then just about everyone on the planet is anti-trans because they're just stating simple, indisputable facts that no reasonable person could argue with. I don't think even the people who bleat "transwomen are women" truly believe it themselves. It's like the men who believe transwomen are women, but not when it comes to "'relationship purposes", or the women who insist that transwomen are women, but just not in prisons or rape crisis centres.

Such staggering hypocrisy. The upside is that more and more people are starting to see the hypocrisy and the pure delusion on display. The emperor has no clothes. This cannot end well.

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Re: Hate crime

Just heard that calling someone a nerd or boffin should be considered a hate crime ! Can you believe it ? What is our country coming to !!!! Personally I'd be delighted to be called a nerd or boffin -never going to happen though - not bright enough !
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