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Old 28th November 2019, 15:28   #91 (permalink)
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Is it racist to say a turban wearing Sikh is, "talking through his turban"?
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Well if it's a problem chips you could just say, your talking out of your arse . Racist problem bitti
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It was actually a question on Daily Politics, it just made me think. Not a phrase I have ever used but I do know a few Sikhs & yes at times I could well have used it.
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Is it racist to say a turban wearing Sikh is, "talking through his turban"?
Yes, if the person in question was offended by your remark. Then expect a visit or even an interview under caution by the West Midlands police. You will then have, in effect, a criminal record, as the complaint by itself, is sufficient for you to be found guilty, as explained in the video at #89.

I maybe old fashioned, but I thought the police are there to investigate real crime. There is a supposedly 20,000 shortfall in police officers. But instead of investigating actual crimes like murder, rape, robbery, knife crime, burglary etc, they investigate “he said, she said” on twitter and collect data on non-crimes and end up defaming innocent people.

At the actual High Court case involving Harry Miller that started a few days ago, the judge in his opening remarks said this-

"The idea that a law-abiding citizen can have their name recorded against a hate incident on a crime report when there was neither hate nor crime undermines principles of justice, free expression, democracy and common sense,” he said.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...t-hears-police

So a good start. I will be following this case with interest.
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Excellent post Rose , thanks the one justification that the college cites :

“The role of British police today goes beyond bringing offenders to justice when they commit crimes,” the College argued in written submissions, adding that “police now take an active role in the resolution of conflict within and between communities.”

Is imho refuted in it's entireity , if the Police investigated every serious crime , then they may have the time for other matters , however with many crimes disregarded completely then they should attend to crime properly first .

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Our daughter (RAF Police) was attending a lecture about honour killing. The civi policeman giving the lecture was asked by her what can be done about it ? His reply. Nothing we can do about it !!!! You couldn't make it up. It was interesting to hear all the various nations that commit those crimes. Not just the ones that immediately spring to mind !
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