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Old 29th October 2018, 17:59   #111 (permalink)
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Can we stop pretending morals matter now ?
Modern day morals went down the pan with the Iraq War.............
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Even closer to home, Hands up who all believe this from the Saudi Gov, through Mattis of course [in no way a Saudi apologist]

Not only do they regularly decapitate people or cut their limbs off, they take folks they dont like, beat them, torture them, kill them and dismember them and hide the bits, fine allies for us dont y'all think? Finer folk than those horrid Iranians.

Saudis vow ?complete? probe of Khashoggi murder: Mattis - Turkey News
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Yes, as you say;' those horrid Iranians'.

Iran: 21-Year-Old Woman To Be Sent To The Gallows
By IranHRM On Mar 27, 2018

The death sentence for a young woman was confirmed by the Supreme Court, according to the state-run Aftab news agency.

The woman named Mojgan is charged with murdering her husband two years ago in July 2015 when she was 21.

Prior to this, the woman was acquitted of the murder charges and was sentenced to paying blood money for the charge of unintentional murder. The sentence was not upheld by the Supreme Court, which sentenced her to death. She has been identified as 21-year-old Mojgan.

The court first exonerated her from the charge of premeditated murder and then sentenced her to pay blood money for committing non-deliberate murder. The Supreme Court, however, did not uphold the verdict and ultimately sentenced her to death.

At least 82 women have been executed in Iran under Hassan Rouhani. 11 of whome have been executed since January 2017.

In the latest case Mahboubeh Mofidi, 21, was executed on January 30, 2018 for a crime she committed at the age of 17.

She was sentenced to death at the age of 17 for killing her husband, was hanged in Noshahr Prison. Reports indicate that Mahboubeh was not informed about the contents of the capsules (she used to kill her husband), which were rice pesticides, but during the second hearing in court, she changed her story upon the threats and insistence of her family.

This other case is even worse.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-rel...r-unfair-trial

In the ME a woman's place is in the wrong.
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Old 29th October 2018, 18:59   #113 (permalink)
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Yes, as you say;' those horrid Iranians'.

Iran: 21-Year-Old Woman To Be Sent To The Gallows
By IranHRM On Mar 27, 2018

The death sentence for a young woman was confirmed by the Supreme Court, according to the state-run Aftab news agency.

The woman named Mojgan is charged with murdering her husband two years ago in July 2015 when she was 21.

Prior to this, the woman was acquitted of the murder charges and was sentenced to paying blood money for the charge of unintentional murder. The sentence was not upheld by the Supreme Court, which sentenced her to death. She has been identified as 21-year-old Mojgan.

The court first exonerated her from the charge of premeditated murder and then sentenced her to pay blood money for committing non-deliberate murder. The Supreme Court, however, did not uphold the verdict and ultimately sentenced her to death.

At least 82 women have been executed in Iran under Hassan Rouhani. 11 of whome have been executed since January 2017.

In the latest case Mahboubeh Mofidi, 21, was executed on January 30, 2018 for a crime she committed at the age of 17.

She was sentenced to death at the age of 17 for killing her husband, was hanged in Noshahr Prison. Reports indicate that Mahboubeh was not informed about the contents of the capsules (she used to kill her husband), which were rice pesticides, but during the second hearing in court, she changed her story upon the threats and insistence of her family.

This other case is even worse.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-rel...r-unfair-trial

In the ME a woman's place is in the wrong.
No kidnapping, strangling and chopped to bits though, not so clever being a man either but I get your drift.
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Old 30th October 2018, 02:56   #114 (permalink)
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Re: Missing Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi

I still have not given up on the suicide theory.

But, if you are interested in the idea of states who kill people they do not like, there is an excellent podcast from last night´s Analysis "Do Assassinations Work?". It includes the Israeli "Red Page" assassinations that are written into that country's law - nobody speaks about that very much, and the way UK and USA go about it. Israel, they say, kills more than anyone else.

28 minutes - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0000xy2

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Meanwhile there is a lot of reputation-repair work going on, it seems.

https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...B&ceid=GB%3Aen

This is unbelievable.Does the left KSA hand know what the right KSA hand is doing in Yemen?

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Saudi Arabia has demanded that aid agencies operating in Yemen should provide favourable publicity for Riyadh’s role in providing $930m (£725m) of humanitarian aid, an internal UN document reveals.

Saudi military intervention in the three-year civil war is widely regarded as a prime cause of the humanitarian disaster that has seen 10,000 civilians killed, and left millions close to starvation. The kingdom intervened in Yemen to restore a UN-recognised government, and push back Iranian-supported Houthi rebels.

Although many donors seek publicity in return for grants, the extent of the Saudi demands are highly unusual.

The document, entitled Visibility Plan, covers the terms of the 2018 humanitarian budget for Yemen, and shows the extent to which the UN aid agency, Ocha, was put under pressure to accept the PR strings attached to money given both by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. The two countries provided nearly one third of the total UN humanitarian budget for Yemen for this year.

Future grants distributed by Ocha to agencies should be tied to the amount of beneficial publicity given to Saudi Arabia, the documents advises. It also calls for Ocha to seek favourable publicity for the Saudi humanitarian effort in Yemen in newspapers such as the New York Times and the Guardian.

The document also sets out how all agencies receiving Saudi aid must share a summary of their publicity around the funding. The agreement adds: “We consider it very important to ensure that our dear fellow Yemenis are all aware of our donations. More emphasis should be placed on strengthening the local visibility plan by engaging local media … so that donors get deserved recognition and not to be overshadowed by the recipient’s agencies’ visibility.”

The UN, the plan sets out, will convene events at UN headquarters focusing on the humanitarian response in Yemen, and the impact of all donor funding. These events will acknowledge the roles of all donors including Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

The agreement also requires agencies receiving the aid to document Saudi- and UAE-supported activities in photographs and video material in Yemen.

The document then sets out 48 specific steps UN agencies have agreed to take this year to publicise Saudi activity covering five different UN aid-linked agencies, including the UN Development Programme, Ocha, the World Health Organization and Unicef.

The leaked documents also show the pressure the two countries have brought to bear on the UN to raise their profile as charitable donors.

One demand states: “One would expect from Ocha or [a] recipient agency to publish articles in recognised daily newspapers such as the New York Times or the Guardian, highlighting our contribution.”

Although the documents show that Ocha resisted some of the Saudi demands, the agency complied with a Saudi request that “a specialised person is recruited by Ocha to be the focal point to ensure the implementation plan by all recipient agencies and to consolidate reports”.

Ocha said in a statement: “Most of the donors in Yemen and elsewhere have visibility requirements that are agreed bilaterally with the individual donor. Because they are bilateral agreements, we do not discuss the details of the individual agreements in public … Throughout the conflict in Yemen, the UN has been vocal, consistent and public in its call on all parties to the conflict to uphold their obligations under international humanitarian law, including the obligation to protect civilians and civilian infrastructure. We will continue to do so.”
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Journalist in Saudi Arabia 'is killed during torture while in custody of the regime' after he was accused of exposing violations committed by the royal family
Turki Bin Abdul Aziz Al-Jasser said to have been murdered in jail in Saudi Arabia
It is said the Saudi government believed he secretly ran critical Twitter account
Reports come just a month after Jamal Khashoggi was slaughtered in Istanbul


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-custody.html
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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Saudi Arabia’s top prosecutor is recommending the death penalty for five suspects charged with ordering and carrying out the killing of Saudi writer Jamal Khashoggi.

Saudi Al-Mojeb told journalists in a rare press conference in Riyadh on Thursday that Khashoggi’s killers had set in motion plans for the killing on Sept. 29, three days before he was killed inside the kingdom’s consulate in Istanbul.

The prosecutor says the highest-level official behind the killing is Saudi former deputy intelligence chief Ahmad al-Assiri, who has been fired for ordering Khashoggi’s forced return.

The prosecutor says 21 people are now in custody, with 11 indicted and referred to trial.

Turkey has blamed the highest ranks of power in Saudi Arabia for Khashoggi’s brutal death, saying the kingdom sent an assassination squad for him.

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How does Saudi Government deal with the murder and dismemberment of a journalist by Government agents working under orders of the said Government.?
Why the Government seeks to chop their heads off as well!
Like a very nasty tale from the evil Arabian nights.

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Five Saudi officials face the death penalty over the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who was killed inside the kingdom’s Istanbul consulate, Riyadh’s public prosecutor said Nov. 15.

Khashoggi, a Washington Post columnist and vocal dissident, died Oct. 2 after being drugged by the accused and then dismembered, a spokesman for public prosecutor Saud Al Mojeb’s office in Riyadh said in the first Saudi acknowledgement of the manner of his killing.

According to a statement by Al Mojeb's deputy and spokesman Shaalan al-Shaalan, eleven Saudis have been indicted.

"The Public Prosecutor has requested the death penalty for 5 individuals who are charged with ordering and committing the crime and for the appropriate sentences for the other indicted individuals," Shaalan said, without naming the five.

He said 11 out of 21 suspects have been indicted and that their cases will be referred to court, while the investigation with the remaining suspects will continue in order to determine their role in the crime.

A travel ban has been imposed on a top aide to the crown prince, Saud al-Qahtani, while investigations continue over his role, Shaalan said, adding Qahtani had met the team ordered to repatriate Kashoggi ahead of their journey to Istanbul to brief them on the journalist's activities. Qahtani has already been fired from the royal court. and the person who had ordered the killing was Saud al-Qahtani, the head of the negotiating team sent to repatriate him.

Saudi seeks death penalty for five Khashoggi murder suspects: Prosecutor - World News
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Mollag are you sure that is the correct link you gave? It's about Police officer who raped girl, 13, who joined force to identify victims.
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