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Old 6th November 2019, 18:12   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Climate Change

Saying human activity has no impact on climate, perhaps defies logic, and is counter-intuitive.... But saying there is no evidence, is not saying the same thing....

https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/econo...kiarserpfa9iA/

...The awareness is what's important, because the stories all have their own 'stories'...

Surely the what is objectionable, is alllowing the costs of pollution to go un-accounted for, and un-paid for financially, by the perpetrators.

For example, the proponents of nuclear energy are enjoying a little bit more success these days after the public awareness of the un-acccounted costs of nuclear pollution have subsided somewhat, compared to 30 years ago... when the uninsurable cost of nuclear hazard was in full view...

And fortunately today, the pollution from 5G (EMF Radiation) is receiving increasing scrutiny as Devonshire, Belgium, and now Japan (?) have banned further rollout... despite having no knowledge of impact on health and environment, nor any payment framework for such costs.
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Old 6th November 2019, 18:47   #22 (permalink)
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World leaders confident they will be able to ignore climate study endorsed by 11,000 scientists..

"World leaders led by Donald Trump are confident they will be able to successfully ignore a new study that declares Climate change to be a ‘clear and unequivocal’ emergency.

Initially it had been thought that the study, which is endorsed by 11,000 scientists, would force governments to work together and solve the problem. However, the global determination to do nothing about climate change has, once again, won out.

“Oh sure, you can prove anything with science,” said Donald Trump, in response to the study.

“But, I think that what you’ve got to do is put the science to one side and ask the question – do I feel colder than I did twenty years ago and, for me, I know I don’t. So, these scientists. These 11,000 scientists. When I feel colder, I’ll let you know, but for now I think we can ignore this.”

Boris Johnson, Britain’s Prime Minister for the next few weeks chose a different way to ignore it.

“Well, obviously, reports like this are tremendously important, and that’s why we need to focus on completely different things that I want to focus on like Brexit and having inappropriate and sexy relationships with attractive American businesswomen.”

Vladimir Putin simply cackled when asked about the report and supped on what appeared to be a cup of blood.

Other leaders were busy doing war with other leaders but promised to ignore the report at some point.

It is expected that when the entire population of the world is forced to move to central Europe as that is the only habitable bit of the world left, then global leaders will consider thinking about climate change.

https://newsthump.com/2019/11/06/wor...eid=8993fcc84c
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Old 6th November 2019, 19:08   #23 (permalink)
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Bad science gives them an 'out' and laugh about it...

But there's a solar minimum on the way...and we may be in a for a 20 year cold spot... and no laughing matter...
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Old 7th November 2019, 11:10   #24 (permalink)
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Shame on you little paws. At least NZ can make a decision and act on it. Good on you NZ, way to go.
Jacinda Ardern’s landmark climate legislation has passed in New Zealand parliament, with historic cross-party support, committing the nation to reduce its carbon emissions to zero by 2050 and meet its commitments under the Paris climate accords.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ro-carbon-bill
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Bad science gives them an 'out' and laugh about it...

But there's a solar minimum on the way...and we may be in a for a 20 year cold spot... and no laughing matter...
Or maybe not

Climate Myth: A grand solar minimum could trigger another ice age
"The sun is acting bizarrely and scientists have no idea why. Solar activity is in gradual decline, a change from the norm which in the past triggered a 300-year-long mini ice age" (Dick Ahlstrom, The Irish Times)

https://skepticalscience.com/print.php?r=448

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Try selling refrigerators if that happens ;○)
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Or maybe not

Climate Myth: A grand solar minimum could trigger another ice age
"The sun is acting bizarrely and scientists have no idea why. Solar activity is in gradual decline, a change from the norm which in the past triggered a 300-year-long mini ice age" (Dick Ahlstrom, The Irish Times)

https://skepticalscience.com/print.php?r=448

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I not sure that I would count on a temporary change of solar activity to counter the malfeasance of mankind
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Turkey Now the Only G20 Country Not Ratifying Paris Agreement

Not now in good company .. Angola, Eritrea, Iran, Iraq, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Libya, South Sudan and Yemen have not ratified the Paris Agreement.

And of course Trump unraveling Obama's legacy by withdrawing the US from Paris Agreement in June 21, 2017





140-percent increase in Turkey's emissions in 17 years


Signed by 194 countries and European Union (EU) representatives at the COP21 in Paris in 2015, Paris Agreement has been in effect since 2016.

Paris Agreement, a joint agreement with the highest participation, aims to limit warming to 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels by 2100.

At the ongoing United Nations (UN) Summit in New York, Russia has signed the act ratifying the country's participation in Paris Agreement.

That being the case, Turkey is now the only G20 country which has not yet ratified the climate agreement.

10 of 197 countries have not signed the agreement

Of 197 countries around the world, 10 countries, namely Turkey, Angola, Eritrea, Iran, Iraq, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Libya, South sudan and Yemen have not ratified the Paris Agreement.

After US President Donald Trump decided to withdraw from Paris Agreement on June 21, 2017

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During a solar minimum, solar activity drops to very low levels, and that tends to mean lower temperatures on Earth.
Earlier this year, a panel of experts gathered to discuss the current solar minimum, and they came to the conclusion that it “could last for years”…

If you like solar minimum, good news: It could last for years. That was one of the predictions issued last week by an international panel of experts who gathered at NOAA’s annual Space Weather Workshop to forecast the next solar cycle. If the panel is correct, already-low sunspot counts will reach a nadir sometime between July 2019 and Sept 2020, followed by a slow recovery toward a new Solar Maximum in 2023-2026.

There are others that believe that we have now entered a “grand solar minimum” such as the one that our planet experienced several hundred years ago. That one was known as “the Maunder Minimum”, and it resulted in a “little ice age”…

The extreme example happened between 1645 and 1715 when the normal 11-year sunspot cycle vanished. This period, called the Maunder Minimum, was accompanied by bitterly cold winters in the American colonies. Fishing settlements in Iceland and Greenland were abandoned. Icebergs were seen near the English channel. The canals of Venice froze. It was a time of great hardship.

Ultimately, the longer winters and shorter summers during the “Maunder Minimum” resulted in famine all over the globe, and multitudes ended up perishing…

The Maunder Minimum is the most famous cold period of the Little Ice Age. Temperatures plummeted in Europe (Figs. 14.3–14.7), the growing season became shorter by more than a month, the number of snowy days increased from a few to 20–30, the ground froze to several feet, alpine glaciers advanced all over the world, glaciers in the Swiss Alps encroached on farms and buried villages, tree-lines in the Alps dropped, sea ports were blocked by sea ice that surrounded Iceland and Holland for about 20 miles, wine grape harvests diminished, and cereal grain harvests failed, leading to mass famines (Fagan, 2007). The Thames River and canals and rivers of the Netherlands froze over during the winter (Fig. 14.3). The population of Iceland decreased by about half. In parts of China, warm-weather crops that had been grown for centuries were abandoned. In North America, early European settlers experienced exceptionally severe winters.

So far in 2019, there have been more than 200 days without a single sunspot on the sun.

We do not know when solar activity will return to normal, but for now we should all prepare for a bitterly cold winter.
Beyond that, we had better hope that we have not entered another “Maunder Minimum”, because right now we are struggling to feed everyone on the planet even in the best of years.
Are You Ready For A Catastrophically Cold Winter? Here Is What The Mainstream Media Won?t Tell You?

A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media

Officials Are Using The Word “Disaster” To Describe The Widespread Crop Failures Happening All Over America
http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...l-over-america

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#27 refers – and I can’t find any Wiki reference to your source TMIN
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