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Old 23rd November 2019, 14:46   #1 (permalink)
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Rip off Britain

Probably best to boycott these stations, let them see that we can do without them:-
Both BP and Shell have been quietly signing up parking firms to install CCTV cameras at the entrances and exits to petrol stations, which are then used to enforce a maximum stay limit – which can be 30 minutes at a BP station and as little as 20 minutes at a Shell station. Fail to comply, and you’ll face £100 demands and the threat of debt collectors.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...aking-too-long
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Old 23rd November 2019, 14:59   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Rip off Britain

As far as I am aware fines by private contractors cannot be enforced in Scotland, only those issued by the police and the council are valid.
I know of a few who ignored the initial ticket and subsequent threats until they gave up.

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Several major stores have brought in private companies to monitor car parks.

Those staying too long are issued with fines of up to £110.

But when motorists appeal the firms often cite the Freedom of Protections Act 2012, which is part of English law and unenforceable in Scotland.

Barrie Segal, founder of parking website AppealNow.com, said: “Many people pay up because they look very official and intimidating.

“Others have paid because they have been told they can be blacklisted as bad debt risks.

“And some have been given the impression they’ll be taken to court and cannot face that.

“But these fines are not worth the paper the ticket is printed on.

“Shame on these stores for letting companies like this loose on their customers.”

His view is backed up by Robert Sheridan, traffic law specialist with solicitors Scullion Law. He said: “Many of these parking firms quote legislation that cannot be enforced in Scotland.

“They may threaten to pursue you through a civil action but it would be prohibitively expensive for them and we know of no cases where they have done this.

“All our clients have successfully appealed their tickets.”
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Re: Rip off Britain

just give me a clue as to why people would want to park for long periods at petrol filling stations, don't you just go to fill up?
I thought there had been cameras at PFS's for a long time to prevent people driving away without paying.
Are people parking and then walking to the local station or shops etc?
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Some petrol station have an adjoining cafe (not necessarily owned by the petrol station, and then there can be waits for car wash.
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Re: Rip off Britain

Apologies, just read the link and I now understand.
I have to say my son used to go the MCDonalds near Gatwick Airport, get his meal and wait till I phoned him when I was exiting the airport and he would come and pick us up!
A lot cheaper then the charge for "short term" pickup, another con!
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Most large petrol stations have shops where they want you to look around and purchase goods, plus the fact that many times you have to queue at the till (usually only one) to pay ! Outrageous !
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Juco - do you mean that private contractors cannot enforce their fines only in Scotland but can do so in the rest of the U.K. ?
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As far as I am aware fines by private contractors cannot be enforced in Scotland, only those issued by the police and the council are valid.
I know of a few who ignored the initial ticket and subsequent threats until they gave up.
And the same applies to the UK according to the last TV documentary I watched on this subject.
Also the advise given is to NEVER give any information especially your name to anyone who asks regarding a parking matter except a official of the law as it is the driver that gets find and not the vehicle, so they have to prove who was driving, so don't make it any easier for them by telling them your name etc.
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Re: Rip off Britain

If I’m in a petrol station any longer than 10 mins then I’ve broke down. Nothing for me in those places except fuel.
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Re: Rip off Britain

As said above there are car washes, café and very often a marks and Spencer food shop. One of my locals got a ticket but ignores it and all other threatening letters because he says they cannot enforce the sign.
And my next door neighbour got a ticket at Gatwick and had to pay it. Most mc Donalds have 90 minute parking. Anything over and you're fined.
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