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Old 8th February 2020, 12:37   #1 (permalink)
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UK's first autonomous road trip: Nissan LEAF drives itself from Bedfordshire to Sunderland, The all-electric car drove itself 230 miles in a record journey for an autonomous car in the UK following years of development.

The Nissan LEAF is the first all-electric car built in the UK, and set an autonomous driving record too. A modified version of the Nissan LEAF has completed the UK's longest autonomous car journey by driving itself the 230 miles from Cranfield in Bedfordshire to Nissan's manufacturing plant in Sunderland.

According to Nissan, the only times a human driver had to take over during the course of the journey was when the car had to drive into motorway services to be charged.

The official mileage for a Nissan LEAF with a 30 kWh battery is 130 miles on a full charge, although it isn't clear how much additional battery running the autonomous computer system required.

According to an image showing the route for the car and the services it had stopped at, the LEAF stopped for four charges during the 230-mile journey.

The LEAF drove 230 miles from Cranfield in Bedfordshire to Sunderland
Without human intervention the autonomous car handled country lanes with "no or minimal road markings" over the course of the journey, as well as junctions, roundabouts and motorways, according to Nissan.

The technology itself handled changing lanes, merging, stopping and starting when necessary.

Even without clear traffic markings, the technology the LEAF is based on is marketed as able to handle "narrow winding roads, carriageways with no lane division markings and poorly-marked roundabouts" all on its own.

The computer system has built a data set of "previously encountered traffic scenarios and solutions" and uses this data to "learn" to handle similar scenarios in the future.

Ironically called the HumanDrive project, the 13.5m partially government-funded road trip took place on public roads "with surrounding motorists none the wiser" according to Nissan - other than the extensive HumanDrive branding on the car itself.

George Freeman, the minister for the future of transport, said: "The UK is fast becoming a leader in intelligent and automated vehicle and traffic management technology, a huge global sector set to create thousands of jobs.

"Our Future of Mobility: Urban Strategy is supporting transport innovation for cleaner, greener and smarter transport, and Nissan's successful HumanDrive project is an exciting example of how the next phase of the UK's transport revolution could look."

Business minister Nadhim Zahawi added: "Safely completing the longest autonomous drive in Britain is an incredible achievement for Nissan and the HumanDrive consortium, and a huge step towards the roll-out of driverless cars on UK streets.

"This project is a shining example of how the automotive industry, working with government, can drive forward technology to benefit people's mobility - while helping to slash carbon emissions."

https://news.sky.com/story/uks-first...rland-11926935

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They are coming folks, along with a lot of technology that will take jobs that can't be replaced, and therefore the future looks bright but dim at the same time.
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Old 8th February 2020, 12:39   #2 (permalink)
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Does it have a swearing mode? I remember seeing ads on telly for these when they first came out. Then nothing at all. As I mentioned the other day IMHO car manufacturers would rather sell conventional petrol car as they make more money after sales, with servicing and parts.
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But surely these vehicles are not maintenance free, batteries etc., can't last forever.
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But surely these vehicles are not maintenance free, batteries etc., can't last forever.
Sure, but look at one of your service receipts, filters/oil/coolant/radiators/alternator/belts/gaskets/coil/spark plugs/ no gearbox/transmission fluid/much less use of brakes as there is regenerative braking. Motor and batteries wheels and brakes about the only moving parts. Batteries come with an 8 year guarantee. What's in it for the dealership? Bumps and scrapes, bodywork. Just an opinion
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Old 8th February 2020, 13:34   #5 (permalink)
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I was looking at the Tesla S today, there are still servicing costs,there are still filters, oiling, greasing and wearable parts, with the S and the X version you can get free charging at Tesla super charging points, providing you live near one, a typical journey for Linsey would be from near Lanark to Carlisle to Newcastle and home, she leaves at about 6 am and back at 7 30 pm, the charging would add on 1 1/2 hours to her day,so not for everyone, her BMW is not due for a service until 2021

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I was looking at the Tesla S today, there are still servicing costs,there are still filters, oiling, greasing and wearable parts, with the S and the X version you can get free charging at Tesla super charging points, providing you live near one, a typical journey for Linsey would be from near Lanark to Carlisle to Newcastle and home, she leaves at about 6 am and back at 7 30 pm, the charging would add on 1 1/2 hours to her day,so not for everyone, her BMW is not due for a service until 2021

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Just checked, minor service is 2023, 2024 for a full service

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It is a shame they did not disclose actual driving time / ave speed , total journey time and ave speed .

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Of course we are all individuals. In many cases it is a question of determination to make something work. Eating while charging for example, I am sure the missus takes rest breaks in her BMW, many work places have chargers no, charging while in a meeting.No congestion charges, how much would that save someone who is in and out of central London all the time?
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Of course we are all individuals. In many cases it is a question of determination to make something work. Eating while charging for example, I am sure the missus takes rest breaks in her BMW, many work places have chargers no, charging while in a meeting.No congestion charges, how much would that save someone who is in and out of central London all the time?
There are no charging points where she works,they are en route and 50 Kw, there is one at Abbington and one in Edinburgh city which is less than practical, her breaks are usually lunch with clients, taking clients to service stations doesn't really work, a home charger would cost a fortune and defeat the object. She is one of thousands doing similar jobs

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There are no charging points where she works,they are en route and 50 Kw, there is one at Abbington and one in Edinburgh city which is less than practical, her breaks are usually lunch with clients, taking clients to service stations doesn't really work, a home charger would cost a fortune and defeat the object. She is one of thousands doing similar jobs

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When I was home last Oct, I test drove the electric golf, just to get a feel for electric cars. I was impressed, even my brother was impressed and he is a real sceptic of electric cars. The salesman said that a home charger was 700 but government would pay 400 of it.
Here in Turkey they are starting to install charging networks. there is a 100kW station in our local town. I don't think it has been used yet. I hope to be the first. At the moment it is free to users, but I don't expect that to go on for ever.
https://zes.net/en/charging-points.html
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