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Old 16th October 2020, 14:54   #1071 (permalink)
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Trump was asked last night at his Town Hall, if he would come out and denounce the crazy conspiracy group called Qanon, he told the moderator he didn't know anything about a group Qanon..... which certainly is an "alternative fact" he was evading having to do denounce them , as they support him.

And why do we know its a lie ? because we know the President is briefed on these dangerous trending groups, and what made the lie worse, he was insulting the intelligence of the electorate as he actually retweets Qanon tweets.

Only a few days before, he had retweeted a tweet from a Qanon account ..

Trump retweeted the conspiracy theory from Qanon that claimed Barack Obama's Operation Neptune Spear where he sent in to Pakistan Navy Seals.
Qanon claim that they mistakenly killed Osama bin Laden's body double, and not the real Osama and he is still alive but hidden by the Obama Admin....

Why did Trump do this ? IMHO he was again to try and disrespect Obama's legacy policy and actions and not for the first-time.

Trump then compounded the lie about not knowing Qanon, by saying to the mod of a Group he supposedly didn't know, that Qanon are against paedophile ... so not knowing them, how did he know that to be true ?

Trumps retweet of Qanon brought about a furious reaction from a Navy Seal he called out Trump for sharing Q Anon conspiracy tweet that the al-Qaeda leader is still alive and that a body double was killed instead, but was covered up by Obama Admin ...he a hero and was there and would know.

Rob O'Neill a Seal who was on the operation voiced his disgust that "highest-ranking person in the country” this baseless conspiracy retweet was “trampling on the graves of some of the World's best heroes”

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Thank you to the 'HATERS' for their thoughtful contributions previously...
Clearly your hatred provides you with much in common with one another...

What is not so clear is... WHY you support Biden and the people behind him...

What are the best three reasons why you support Biden, Trump's opposition...?


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Whatever thoughts are on Trump per se, it cannot be denied this is a stupendous speech!

https://twitter.com/goodquestioner/s...98633171050497
Straight talking Trump...the video on this link above says it all...


Election year 2020 in the country with the world’s strongest protections of personal rights and freedoms. Surprised by the previous defeat of their candidate four years previously, the cabal of hidden interests that have controlled the government for decades, have resorted to continuous and coordinated attack on the new democratically elected leader.

The attacks began with a wide ranging smear campaign against the President and his family members, and continued through a series of investigations and proceedings over several years, for the purpose of limiting the President’s powers, and removing him from office:
-The Mueller Investigation
-The Russia Gate Investigation
-The Impeachment Proceedings

The outcome of the investigations was that no adequate legal evidence to support the allegations was submitted to a court of law, and thus no wrong doing was proven.

Instead the allegations were perpetrated and promoted through media channels in the country, where more than 90% of all newspapers are owned and controlled by six corporate interests. The multi-year, multi-investigation was intended serve as a ‘trial by public opinion’ in the media, in preparation for the removal of the President.

The investigations were wide ranging and variously re-directed, but eventually settled with focus on allegations concerning the President’s collusion with Russian interests.The investigations un-intentionally uncovered and revealed information harmful to the investigator’s interests, and harmful to the President’s political opposition.

A ‘Ukraine Gate’ cover-up of political corruption involving the political opponent of the President (Joe Biden) , key vested interest George Soros, the Government of Ukraine, and a purportedly corrupt energy corporation in Ukraine.

The widespread and extensive wire-tapping and spying for six years under the former President’s office (Obama administration) , and the two key members of his administration (Hilary Clinton and Joe Biden) that are political opponents of the current President. The spying was conducted on U. S. citizens and the President, his family, and members of his administration, in direct violation of the law, for which a previous President was impeached (Nixon).

False and Purposely Fabricated Evidence...
The key and core supporting evidence of Russian collusion was provided in a dossier compiled by former MI6 operative Christopher Steele, and known as the Steele Dossier. This dossier was discovered to have been falsely fabricated at the instigation of the President’s political opposition (Hillary Clinton) in collusion with Directors and agents within the security services (FBI, CIA).

Leading newspapers in the western media, led by the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Guardian newspaper, promoted and perpetrated the falsely fabricated stories, continuously for several years, in what became known as ‘fake news’. The fake news tactics were also applied to the cover-up of these transgressions, and to dis-crediting information and evidence that proved contrary to their intended propaganda, often referred to as ‘alt right or alternative right’.

Eighteen days before the upcoming election, the corruption of the investigating cabal’s candidate is exposed by chance. In response, the cabal’s media interests, social media platform channels Twitter and Facebook, censure the democratically elected leader, removing his freedom of speech, in this country where personal freedoms are sacrosanct and hallowed….

Segments of the population are armed and prepared to confront this tyranny with force of arms.. How much longer now, can the people with-hold their rage, and restrain their retribution……?.



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Those photos you posted of MILITIA on State Capitol steps... displaying their constitutional rights to bear firearms... specifically for the purpose of COMMUNICATING their constitutional rights to confront TYRANNY when it overtakes a democracy, as the authors of the constitution specifically and purposely intended...

Those are the people that are signalling their patience and tolerance is waning in the face of this media manipulation and clandestine corporate control...

As Noan Chomsky pointed out in his testimony at the Assange hearing, the few in power know their privilege rests entirely on the beliefs they perpetrate for the many through the media and other channels (like that court), and when those channels fail, they in power are vulnerable and at risk, from the many...
The FBI, Militias, Truth, And Comey's Legacy

Authored by Chris Farrell via The Gatestone Institute,

In the past few days, news reports have alerted us to an FBI claim that a militia group was planning to kidnap the governor of Michigan. The Detroit Free Press wrote:

"Thirteen members of an anti-government group bent on igniting a civil war are charged in a plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, who the group targeted in a possible commando raid on the state capitol, according to newly unsealed court records.

"Authorities said Thursday that the Wolverine Watchmen group planned on storming either the capitol or Whitmer's vacation home as part of a broader mission to instigate a civil war."


Half of the country does not believe the FBI. Is it possible that the militia story is another contrived, anti-Trump, smear job by elements within the FBI? If the FBI headquarters can run a coup against the president, can Michigan FBI agents phony-up some charges against fringe characters with sketchy criminal information?



It would not be the first time. Back on March 29, 2010, the Department of Justice announced the following:

"Michigan residents, along with two residents of Ohio and a resident of Indiana, were indicted by a federal grand jury in Detroit on charges of seditious conspiracy, attempted use of weapons of mass destruction, teaching the use of explosive materials, and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence, Attorney General Eric Holder, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan Barbara L. McQuade and FBI Special Agent in Charge Andrew Arena announced today."


The 2010 Michigan militia group called themselves the "Hutarees." The case did not end well for the FBI. Charges were dropped. Others from the Hutarees faced lesser charges. Some of the Hutarees ended up suing the government over the investigation and prosecution. It seems the FBI went too far on too little.

"Militia" is a news media certified code-word for Trump-supporter. FBI-doubters know the bureau launched a sophisticated operation against the Trump campaign, Trump transition, and finally the Trump administration. Even the New York Times admits it. It was a soft coup. The entire criminal conspiracy is being documented now in movies.

The FBI's reputation has been destroyed through blatant politicization. Here are the corrupt political police: Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Clinesmith, Pientka, Brower, Baker, et al. That is a collection of various dirty cops, oath-breakers, coup-plotters, and persons "lacking candor" in FBI parlance. Those are just some of the FBI "headliners" -- no Justice Department names on that list.



Current FBI Director Christopher Wray hardly engenders confidence as a strong leader bent on cleaning house and reforming a corrupt agency that attempted a soft coup against the presidency. Wray is all about damage control and institutional preservation. When it comes to honesty, Wray does not have a tough act to follow. That is why he is comfortable making the demonstrably false claim that Antifa is more of an ideology than a group.

Now we are dealing with reports of the "Wolverine Watchmen." Here is the interesting part of one of the news reports where we should pay close attention. (It is also the operational part of the FBI's activities wherein things have a tendency to legally fall apart):

"Members of the group bought weapons, conducted surveillance and held training and planning meetings, but they were foiled in part because the FBI infiltrated the group with informants, according to a criminal complaint. Six were charged with federal kidnapping offenses, and at least seven others face state charges." [Emphasis added]

Also pay attention to this excerpt from the news report:

"The FBI used confidential informants as part of the investigation and has paid one of them more than $14,000 and paid $8,600 to another, according to the affidavit."

While the anti-Trump media codeword "militia" is used to describe the alleged plotters -- video evidence from Twitter and YouTube reveals that one of the leaders is an anarchist, certainly not a "right wing Trumpster."



This is a video of Brandon Caserta, one of the ringleaders of the group of men arrested for a plot where the group planned to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Caserta has an anarchist flag behind him and in YouTube videos trashes police. He’s not a Republican, he’s an anarchist. pic.twitter.com/J1vE2qGYL7
— Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) October 8, 2020


Likewise, more questions are raised about the plotters, their affiliations, and motives with this news report:

"One of alleged plotters, 23-year-old Daniel Harris, attended a Black Lives Matter protest in June, telling the Oakland County Times he was upset about the killing of George Floyd and police violence."

Perhaps the FBI's case is 100% true? Perhaps the kidnapping story is legitimate? Perhaps this is not a piece of agitation propaganda? Would a governor cooperate or be complicit in the phony smear? Would the news media blow the anti-Trump dog whistle and blame the president for a kidnapping that never actually happened?

Of course, the presumption of innocence is foundational to our system of justice. Comey's living legacy, and the permanent institutional stain on the FBI more generally, is that we cannot take the Bureau's claims as truthful. We used to give due credence to sworn Special Agents of the FBI. No more.



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"Massive Corruption By The Obama-Biden Administration": Flynn Family Responds To FBI Text Message Revelations


The Flynn family has responded to the recent revelations that he was part of an effort to "get TRUMP," according to FBI text messages.

"Abusive, intentional lawless actions committed against the Republic, the President of the United States Donald J. Trujmp and his NSA Director and our brother, General Mike Flynn, by a vile cabal of thugs in the FBI, DOJ and Special Counsel's office threatened the national security of our country and all Americans," the statement begins.

"Evidence of massive corruption by the Obama-Biden administration pour from the pages of documents just released..."

"The criminal conduct and malfeasance of those entrusted with the power to enforce our laws trampled the rights and lives of Gen Flynn, our entire family, and all Americans who cherish our Constitution."

Flynn Family Statement- September 25, 2020: Evidence Of Massive Corruption By Obama-Biden FBI DOJ & SCO Pour From Just Released Documents Exposing Targeting Of General Flynn-To “Get Trump” We Demand Justice Now����⭐️⭐️⭐️����@GenFlynn @SidneyPowell1 @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/SgFyZugCHf
— Barbara(Flynn)⭐️⭐️⭐️Redgate #WhoLeakedGenFlynn (@BarbaraRedgate) September 25, 2020

* * *
As The Federalist reports, "In one series of texts sent the same day as the infamous Jan. 5 Oval Office meeting between Obama, Biden, Comey, Sally Yates, and Susan Rice, one agent admits that “Trump was right” when he tweeted that the FBI was delaying his briefings as incoming president so they could cook up evidence against him."

The "Intelligence" briefing on so-called "Russian hacking" was delayed until Friday, perhaps more time needed to build a case. Very strange!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 4, 2017


One agent also texted "I’m telling [sic] man, if this thing ever gets FOIA’d, there are going to be some tough questions asked," adding "And a great deal of those will be related to Brian having a scope way outside the boundaries of logic[.]"


"[REDACTED] is one of the worst offenders of the rabbit holes and conspiracy theories," an agent texted. "This guy traveled with that guy, who put down 3rd guy as his visa sponsor. 3rd guy lives near a navy base, therefore…[.]"

On Jan. 3, 2017, Trump tweeted the FBI was delaying its briefings for him to buy time to cook up evidence against him.

Two days later, as Obama and Comey met in the WH to go over their plans to to take out Flynn, one FBI agent texted: "Trump was right." https://t.co/RXjFKGNjBS


— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) September 24, 2020

* * *
Update (1405ET): Another nugget revealed in the Flynn filing is that agents who worked on Mueller's team joked about wiping their cell phones.

NEWS: William Barnett, the FBI case agent on the Flynn probe, told investigators earlier this month that other agents working on the Mueller team "comically" spoke about wiping their cell phones. pic.twitter.com/8Krb9fAK7p
— Ivan Pentchoukov (@IvanPentchoukov) September 25, 2020

* * *
Thanks to Judge Emmet Sullivan refusing the DOJ's request to drop the Michael Flynn case, a cache of explosive documents has now been released to the public revealing that at least one FBI agent on Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team thought the case was a politically motivated "dead end," and others bought professional liability insurance as their bosses were continuing the investigation based on "conspiracy theories."

Judge Sullivan and the DC Court of Appeals are turning out to be the unintentional heroes of the Flynn saga. In their unseemly quest to destroy Flynn, they refused to let DOJ drop case, and now we're getting some of the most explosive documents about Special Counsel probe yet.
— Mollie (@MZHemingway) September 25, 2020


In one case, FBI agent William J. Barnett said during a Sept. 17 interview that he believed Mueller's prosecution of Flynn was part of an attitude to "get Trump," and that he didn't want to pursue the Trump-Russia collusion investigation because it was "not there" and a "dead end," according to Fox News.

Barnett, during his interview, detailed his work at the FBI, and his assignment to the bureau’s original cases against Flynn and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. Barnett said the Flynn investigation was assigned the code name “Crossfire Razor,” which was part of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation — the bureau’s code name for the original Trump-Russia probe.

Barnett told investigators that he thought the FBI’s Trump-Russia probe was “opaque” and “with little detail concerning specific evidence of criminal events.”

“Barnett thought the case theory was ‘supposition on supposition,’” the 302 stated, and added that the “predication” of the Flynn investigation was “not great,” and that it “was not clear” what the “persons opening the case wanted to ‘look for or at.’”

After six weeks of investigating, Barnett said he was “still unsure of the basis of the investigation concerning Russia and the Trump campaign working together, without a specific criminal allegation.” -Fox News

When Barnett approached agents about what they thought the 'end game' was with Flynn - suggesting they interview the former National Security Adviser "and the case be closed unless derogatory information was obtained," he was cautioned not to conduct an interview, as it may tip Flynn off that he was under investigation.

"Barnett still did not see any evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government," the 302 states. "Barnett was willing to follow any instructions being given by the deputy director as long as it was not a violation of the law."

Insurance over "conspiracy theories"?

Another revelation from documents in the Flynn case comes in the form of text messages released on Thursday in which agents bought liability insurance, fearing they would be sued over an investigation into Flynn based on "conspiracy theories."

"We all went and purchased professional liability insurance," one analyst texted on Jan. 10, 2017 - 10 days before Trump was inaugurated, according to Just The News.
"Holy crap," responded a colleague. "All of the analysts too?"
"Yep," replied the first analyst. "All the folks at the Agency as well."
"Can I ask who are the most likely litigators?" responded a colleague. "As far as potentially suing y'all."
"Haha, who knows….I think the concern when we got it was that there was a big leak at DOJ and the NYT among others was going to do a piece," the first analyst texted back.
Wow & I mean, wow. Jaw dropper. CIA analysts buying professional liability insurance for Flynn investigation is: wow.

Holding open/reopening case to go on a fishing expedition w/National Security Letters is also a stunner (& unacceptable.) Again: wow. https://t.co/U6Z0JctKr2
— Leslie McAdoo Gordon (@McAdooGordon) September 25, 2020

The explosive messages were attached to a new filing by Flynn's attorney Sidney Powell, who argued to the court that is considering dismissing her client's guilty plea that the emails show "stunning government misconduct" and "wrongful prosecution."

"There was no case against General Flynn," Powell wrote in the new motion. "There was no crime. The FBI and the prosecutors knew that. This American hero and his entire family have suffered for four years from public abuse, slander, libel, and all means of defamation at the hands of the very government he pledged his life to defend." -Just The News

Thanks to Judge Sullivan's hatred of Flynn, the world now knows how much more corrupt the Mueller investigation was.

It's even worse than that. Many of the bogus allegations were themselves leaked by FBI and DOJ personnel who then used the stories produced from their own illegal leaks to justify further illegal investigative efforts. https://t.co/e5nRdvIVbz
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) September 25, 2020





Former Intel Officials Scramble To Downplay Ratcliffe's Russiagate Releases

Authored by Dave DeCamp via AntiWar.com,

US Intelligence officials were quick to speak through their stenographers in the media to downplay the contents of a memo released by Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe about the origins of Russiagate. The memo made an explosive claim: Russian intelligence assessed that Hillary Clinton approved a campaign in July 2016 to link Donald Trump to Russia’s alleged hacking of the DNC to distract from Clinton’s email scandal.

After a week of sanctimonious statements from former intelligence officials, who according to Politico, were "aghast" with Ratcliffe’s decision to declassify the intelligence, the DNI declassified documents that showed the claim was not as "unverified" as these spooks would like the American people to believe.

In the memo released last week, Ratcliffe said handwritten notes from former CIA director John Brennan indicated that Brennan briefed President Obama on Clinton’s alleged plot. On Tuesday, Ratcliffe declassified those notes.

"We’re getting additional insight into Russian activities from [REDACTED]," Brennan’s notes read. "CITE [summarizing] alleged approved by Hillary Clinton a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisers to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security service,"


Speaking with CNN after his notes were released, Brennan confirmed that he briefed Obama on this allegation.

"These were my notes from the 2016 period when I briefed President Obama and the rest of the national security council team about what the Russians were up to and I was giving examples of the type of access that the US intelligence community had to Russian information and what the Russians were talking about and alleging," Brennan said.

Before Brennan’s admission, the former CIA chief denounced Ratcliffe’s move to declassify the information and said the DNI is "is anything but an intelligence professional" and said Ratcliffe’s "selective declassification of information" was done to help President Trump. While Ratcliffe’s move was undoubtedly politically motivated, Brennan is in no position to judge anybody’s professionalism.




Brennan, who landed a job as an analyst for NBC in 2018, has used his prominence as a former CIA chief to make wild accusations about President Trump and Russia. After the 2018 Helsinki Summit, Brennan took to Twitter to accuse Trump of "treason" and said the president is "wholly in the pocket of Putin." In August 2018, Brennan penned an Op-Ed for The New York Times that said President Trump’s claims of no collusion are "hogwash." After Robert Mueller found no collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, Brennan changed his tune and said he must have received "bad information." Whoops.

Ratcliffe also released a declassified CIA memo from September 2016 addressed to former FBI Director James Comey and then-Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strzok as part of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation into Trump campaign officials’ alleged ties to Russia.

"Per FBI verbal request, CIA provides the below examples of information the CROSSFIRE HURRICANE fusion cell has gleaned to date,” the memo reads. "An exchange [REDACTED] discussing US presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s approval of a plan concerning US presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers hampering US elections as a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server."

Last week, during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Senator Lindsey Graham asked Comey if he remembered receiving the memo, but the former FBI chief conveniently forgot. "That doesn’t ring any bells with me," Comey said.

The inspector general report on the FBI’s spying of the Trump campaign revealed multiple instances of the agency withholding and misrepresenting information to the FISA court to obtain surveillance warrants. For example, the FBI withheld the fact that Trump campaign advisor Carter Page had been working with the CIA in his dealings with Russia. The September 2016 memo alleging Clinton ordered to stir up a scandal linking Trump to Russia is just another example in a long list of information the FBI ignored to fit its narrative.

As Graham pointed out during the hearing and the great Russiagate debunker Aaron Maté pointed out on Twitter, the fact that the Clinton campaign tried to hype Trump-Russia ties is nothing new. It is well known that the campaign hired Fusion GPS and former British spy Christopher Steele to compile a now-discredited dossier about Trump’s alleged ties to Russia that relied heavily on internet rumors.


Ratcliffe’s memo says Clinton allegedly approved a campaign to stir up a scandal to distract from her emails on July 26th, 2016. A look at the timeline of events suggests Russian intelligence based this analysis, at least partly, on open-source information.

WikiLeaks began publishing emails from the Democratic National Committee on July 22nd, shortly before the Democratic National Convention. The emails were damning and revealed the DNC had a preference for Clinton and actively worked against the Bernie Sanders campaign.

The blog Moon of Alabama found Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook appeared on CNN on July 24th and made what was possibly the first allegation that Russia had "hacked" the DNC in support of Trump. Mook made the claim with no evidence, citing unnamed "experts."


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DNI Letter Supports Allegation That Hillary Clinton Created 'Russiagate'
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— Moon of Alabama (@MoonofA) September 30, 2020


"What’s disturbing to us is that experts are telling us Russian state actors broke into the DNC, stole these emails, and other experts are now saying that the Russians are releasing these emails for the purpose of actually of helping Donald Trump," Mook said.

As Bernhard put it at Moon of Alabama, "Mook’s TV appearance was probably a test balloon raised to see if such claims would stick." And stick they did.

The following day, The New York Times published a story that said, "the Russian-intervention narrative fits with Mrs. Clinton’s efforts to establish the idea that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia wants to see Mr. Trump elected to weaken America and hurt its closest NATO allies."

In an interview on July 26th, 2016, President Obama alluded to the idea that Russia "hacked" the DNC to help Donald Trump. "What we do know is that the Russians hack our systems, not just government systems but private systems," Obama said. "What the motives were in terms of the leaks, all that – I can’t say directly. What I do know is that Donald Trump has repeatedly expressed admiration for Vladimir Putin."



CrowdStrike's newy disclosed admissions raise new questions about whether Special Counsel Robert Mueller (above), intelligence officials and Democrats misled the public.
AP Photo/Susan Walsh


The allegation that Russia hacked the DNC first came from the private cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike in June 2016. In its investigation, the FBI relied on CrowdStrike’s work and never had access to DNC servers. This year, a bombshell was revealed by declassified testimony from CrowdStrike President Shawn Henry before the House Intelligence Committee in 2017.

Henry admitted his firm had no "concrete evidence" that alleged Russian hackers stole data from the DNC servers. "There are times when we can see data exfiltrated, and we can say conclusively. But in this case it appears it was set up to be exfiltrated, but we just don’t have the evidence that says it actually left," Henry said.

As far as attributing the "hack" to Russia, Henry said, "There are other nation-states that collect this type of intelligence for sure, but the – what we would call the tactics and techniques were consistent with what we’d seen associated with the Russian state."

While Brennan and other former officials express their disdain at Trump’s DNI for selectively declassifying this latest information, it is important to understand that the claim underpinning the entire Russiagate narrative still has many holes. And the conspiracy would have never been born without selective leaks of information by Obama-era intelligence officials.




Rep. Adam Schiff: Democrat held up interview transcripts, but finally relented after acting intel director Richard Grenell suggested he would release them himself.
(Senate Television via AP)


‘Corroboration Zero’: An Inspector General’s Report Reveals the Steele Dossier Was Always a Joke

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-media-924944/

The report throws water on one “deep state” conspiracy theory of the Russia investigation, but validates complaints about “fake news” .

The Guardian headline reads: “DOJ Internal watchdog report clears FBI of illegal surveillance of Trump adviser.”

If the report released Monday by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz constitutes a “clearing” of the FBI, never clear me of anything. Holy God, what a clown show the Trump-Russia investigation was.



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It seems what Trump wants to give all Americans to get elected ... doesn't work .... he will have to add it to his other non remedies promoted by him
like Hydroxychloroquine and bleach.


Remdesivir and interferon fall flat in WHO’s megastudy of COVID-19 treatments
By Kai KupferschmidtOct. 16, 2020.

Science’s COVID-19 reporting is supported by the Pulitzer Center and the Heising-Simons Foundation.

Data on Gilead's remdesivir show no benefit for coronavirus

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...-19-treatments

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Haters ?I have never worked in the headware industry. [ your not so fond of Ex President Obama or Ex Vice President Biden yourself, would you consider yourself a Hater also ?) Have you not found a right wing nutjob forum site yet, you will find soul mates there methinks.
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It strikes me that the political powers that be actualy want trump in power next term or why offer a decrepid old man like Bidon as suposed viable opposition.

As said several times before, I am an extreem racist because I f@@ing hate Americans and America as represented by Trump, Nixon etc. and those insaine idiots on the steps with automatic weapons round their necks.

Consideing I am a gun owner and very active hunter thats saying a LOT

Arguments that Trump is a streight talking nationalist are obsured. Hitla was a streight talking Nationalist, Trump is a self obsessed, tax evading, racist (in the clasic Black v White way) masognistic perveyour of false statements and lies bile and hatred on twitter

But I am still not sure id vote for Bidon for any other reasion than to eject Trump and that sadly is a loosing candidate for the USA who are always arround the 50 50 mark

So more Trump years to come I bet comedians all over the world are rubbing their hand with glee at the comady gold that has been and will be the legacy of his term as President

OH and putin will be laughing his tits off
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Thank you to the 'HATERS' for their thoughtful contributions previously...
Clearly your hatred provides you with much in common with one another...

What is not so clear is... WHY you support Biden and the people behind him...

What are the best three reasons why you support Biden, Trump's opposition...?


Straight talking Trump...the video on this link above says it all...


Election year 2020 in the country with the world’s strongest protections of personal rights and freedoms. Surprised by the previous defeat of their candidate four years previously, the cabal of hidden interests that have controlled the government for decades, have resorted to continuous and coordinated attack on the new democratically elected leader.
Thats a well constructed argument well done

I am asming your not some Putin funded propaganda trol and actualy exist, but giving you the benefit of the doubt:

I take extreem issue with this statement:

Election year 2020 in the country with the world’s strongest protections of personal rights and freedoms

Obviously you meen for white people right?

And your ignoring facts like child brides are still leagle in some states of the USA and the right to "stand your ground" has been used as an excuse to "legally" murder people in some states and Donald Trump just nominated a Supreem Court Judge whos hell bent on removing the freedom of choice for women to have abortions??? Trump banned Transgenda people from the military in 2018 overturning a previous acceptance by Obama

But the massive hole in your argument is how can any reasnoble person sugest that americans have "protections to personal rights and freedoms" when a stagering 40million + americans do not have access to basic helthcare????


And what about the electroal collage issue?????

Thats huge and it prevents democratic voting in the USA

That single point totaly destroys the whole argument

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Are you combining and confusing the bias of your spin in the first part above, with the feigned authoritative concern of a moderator, to further your own personal agenda and bias... in support of your comrades on this forum...?
Trump lost the poll by three million votes , a fact....it chokes Drumpfy and his lickspittles.....as for your posting style and identity as expected you cannot reply , just , as usual obfuscate .

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I wonder how much money changed hands here........... Where is that baby blimp?
Environmentalists dismayed by go-ahead for new course in Aberdeenshire are likely to give the president a hostile welcome if he visits.
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Donald Trump says he might leave US if he loses to Joe Biden


President says he cannot face defeat by former vice president

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1129810.html

Panic......Quick lets build that wall he will pay for it ...make sure there is no spare dinghys.........Scotland beware or Russia might have a spare "put up" ...

Sure Boris will find space in his Cabinet ...maybe Hancocks in charge of Coronavirus ???
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The Hunter Biden Emails Story Has Totally Fallen Apart

Writers at The New York Post refused to allow their bylines to be used on the alleged Hunter Biden emails story because they doubted the sourcing and credibility of the materials.

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/10...lls-apart.html


Putin Mouthpiece Sen. Ron Johnson Totally Changes His Story On Hunter Biden

The fake Russian emails didn’t gain any traction in the media, so Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) is now falsely accusing Hunter Biden of criminal activity.

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