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Old 9th May 2020, 08:26   #1 (permalink)
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All Brexiteers- Happy Europe Day

A very happy Europe Day to all Brexiteers, Remainers and couldnt care lessers

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I’m sure all remain voters knew it was a special day today lol
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Re: All Brexiteers- Happy Europe Day

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Ukraine lost 10-12 million during WW2, a third of population, and today VE day is solemnly remembered here despite lockdown.
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Re: All Brexiteers- Happy Europe Day

The UK seem to be quick to claim they single-handedly fought off Hitler and offer up this as justification for them NOT to be part of Europe????

We lost 357,000 in WW2

About the same as Romania

Poland lost 600,000

France 201,000

Yugoslavia 304,000

Funny that. It seems the whole of Europe spilled blood in WW2 and they were rewarded with a united Europe and 70 years of peace


Interestingly Germany left the League of Nations (A kind of EU on steroids set up after WW1 to avoid another war) prior to instigating WW2
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The UK seem to be quick to claim they single-handedly fought off Hitler and offer up this as justification for them NOT to be part of Europe????

We lost 357,000 in WW2

About the same as Romania

Poland lost 600,000

France 201,000

Yugoslavia 304,000

Funny that. It seems the whole of Europe spilled blood in WW2 and they were rewarded with a united Europe and 70 years of peace


Interestingly Germany left the League of Nations (A kind of EU on steroids set up after WW1 to avoid another war) prior to instigating WW2
“Funny that” ???? I don’t see anything funny about it at all. Not forgetting that the countries you’ve mentioned were occupied, we were just one of the countries who wasn’t occupied but went to help others.
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The UK seem to be quick to claim they single-handedly fought off Hitler and offer up this as justification for them NOT to be part of Europe????

We lost 357,000 in WW2

About the same as Romania

Poland lost 600,000

France 201,000

Yugoslavia 304,000

Funny that. It seems the whole of Europe spilled blood in WW2 and they were rewarded with a united Europe and 70 years of peace

Interestingly Germany left the League of Nations (A kind of EU on steroids set up after WW1 to avoid another war) prior to instigating WW2

Firstly; I don't believe "The UK seem to be quick to claim they single-handedly fought off Hitler.".... Undoubtedly the UK played a pivotal role which also financially encumbered UK tax payers with humongous debts which were only fairly recently paid off. As a UK Taxpayer I believe they did the right thing & as much as our detractors rail against us, I believe it was the Moral thing to do for everybody. But, the UK should Not have waived payments owed to her by Germany!

Strange that you only mention 3 countries: Poland's situation was the reason UK declared WW11. - Yugoslavia, no longer exists.... France...…. Chap in charge there was eventually tried & found guilty of Treason.... Every Country in Europe Paid a Price, in Money, Blood & Heartache for WW11. Lest We Forget!

France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_P%C3%A9tain

Italy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

Spain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco

Yugoslavia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslavia

Oh Dear,Chasey that's the trouble with extrapolating figures out of their context, it invariably gives a totally slanted picture...….

"It seems the whole of Europe spilled blood in WW2 and they were rewarded with a united Europe and 70 years of peace."

Peace you say! What planet have you been living on?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...icts_in_Europe

The above link doesn't cover financial machinations politically designed to exert influence & power over many European countries, especially since the end of WW11.....

Germany wasn't the only country to leave The League of Nations!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations

PS: To be fair to France, their only saving grace was The Resistance Movement; rather akin to todays' Yellow Vests....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Gaulle
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And Ukraine paid the highest price per capita with 10-12 million people dead!
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The Russian's lost 8.6 million

But the truth is no one won.

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The Russian's lost 8.6 million

But the truth is no one won.
Ukraine was part of Russia so they lost at least 20 million.

"World War II losses of the Soviet Union from all related causes were about 27,000,000 both civilian and military,[1] although exact figures are disputed. A figure of 20 million was considered official during the Soviet era. The post-Soviet government of Russia puts the Soviet war losses at 26.6 million,[2] on the basis of the 1993 study by the Russian Academy of Sciences, including people dying as a result of effects of the war. [3][4][5] This includes 8,668,400 military deaths as calculated by the Russian Ministry of Defense.

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