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Old 19th May 2020, 14:11   #1 (permalink)
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Millions of US farm animals to be culled by suffocation

Millions of US farm animals to be culled by suffocation, drowning and shooting
Closure of meat plants due to coronavirus means ‘depopulation’ of hens and pigs with methods experts say are inhumane, despite unprecedented demand at food banks.

More than 10 million hens are estimated to have been culled due to Covid-19 related slaughterhouse shutdowns. The majority will have been smothered by a water-based foam, similar to fire-fighting foam, a method that animal welfare groups are calling “inhumane”.

The pork industry has warned that more than 10 million pigs could be culled by September for the same reason. The techniques used to cull pigs include gassing, shooting, anaesthetic overdose, or “blunt force trauma”.

In “constrained circumstances”, according to the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA), techniques [pdf] might also include a combination of shutting down pig barn ventilator systems with the addition of CO2 so the animals suffocate.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ng-coronavirus
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Old 19th May 2020, 18:30   #2 (permalink)
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A virus that just keeps on taking....
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Re: Millions of US farm animals to be culled by suffocation

Echoes of a past slaughter, absolutely horrific.
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Re: Millions of US farm animals to be culled by suffocation

Doesn't bode seeing the US standards or lack of them on animal welfare...

Then we see are own Government ... voted down a Bill to protect our own high standards....

Tory MPs rejected "Agriculture Bill" vote to protect UK farmers' high standards

One of these is an ask for the Bill to uphold British farmers' high standards in any future trade deals that the UK makes with third countries.

https://www.farminguk.com/news/mps-r...rds_55644.html

That plus the Willingness it seems of the lead UK trade negotiator....

Liz Truss working on ‘big concession package’ to secure post-Brexit trade deal with US

Officials at Defra said cutting such tariffs could be “the thin end of the wedge” which will lead to a lowering of animal welfare standards.

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top...mers-1-6652587
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Doesn't bode seeing the US standards or lack of them on animal welfare...

Then we see are own Government ... voted down a Bill to protect our own high standards....
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UK standards are not so fantastic; it is not true that all British farmers love their animals and treat them like family: sorry to break the spell! They are kept in line by animal welfare laws, but try a day out at a slaughter house during the holiday, or watch how chickens are dealt with on the way to KFC. If you are going to eat anything that has a face, then don't get emotional about the "high standards" you hold producers to. And don't get me started on farmers as Guardians of the Countryside.

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UK standards are not so fantastic; it is not true that all British farmers love their animals and treat them like family: sorry to break the spell! They are kept in line by animal welfare laws, but try a day out at a slaughter house during the holiday, or watch how chickens are dealt with on the way to KFC. If you are going to eat anything that has a face, then don't get emotional about the "high standards" you hold producers to. And don't get me started on farmers as Guardians of the Countryside.

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I have always explained to people if you want to buy food at rock bottom prices it will effectively be mass produced on a production line.
Peoples feelings toward animal welfare in food production is in pretty short supply in the check out queue.
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Re: Millions of US farm animals to be culled by suffocation

To be honest who pictures a cow on the cud when ordering a Big Mac or a hen laying an egg when buying that tasty chicken from Iceland or Aldi.

If we actually saw in our minds when out shopping what the animals went through I think there would be a lot more veggies about.
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To be honest who pictures a cow on the cud when ordering a Big Mac or a hen laying an egg when buying that tasty chicken from Iceland or Aldi.

If we actually saw in our minds when out shopping what the animals went through I think there would be a lot more veggies about.
Yeah it’s like the environment bods, create havoc but drive or fly there to do it.
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UK standards are not so fantastic; it is not true that all British farmers love their animals and treat them like family: sorry to break the spell! They are kept in line by animal welfare laws, but try a day out at a slaughter house during the holiday, or watch how chickens are dealt with on the way to KFC. If you are going to eat anything that has a face, then don't get emotional about the "high standards" you hold producers to. And don't get me started on farmers as Guardians of the Countryside.

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No spell broken Ian... I didn't use emotive language of some tree hugger and expect farmers to "love their animals". I know its a food industry and most do it for profit. I was more concerned that the standards we do have, dont drop in the desperation for a Brexit trade deal. The Agriculture Bill voted down by the Tories, would have protected the standards we have at present in any new trade agreement .

The voting against it seems to me coincidental, at a time when Liz Truss in her position of lead in negotiations between the UK and US, has said she has a a package of concessions to secure the post Brexit trade deal with the US.

That concern of concessions by Truss is also shared by the professional body Defra worrying that it could be “the thin end of the wedge” which will lead to a lowering of animal welfare standards".

Defra is responsible for safeguarding our natural environment, supporting our world leading food and farming industry, and sustaining a thriving rural economy supported by 33 agencies and public bodies.

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Camden, DEFRA are public servants as well as experts in their field.
Why on earth would Gove and his ilk have any truck with them?
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