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Old 30th June 2020, 19:35   #11 (permalink)
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It might be just me, but I find that offensive and in extreme bad taste
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Mushroom .. The UK police doesn't use what is called "positive discrimination" or even "dumbing down" as you suggest to boost non-white numbers. Maybe that's why the police force don't reflect the makeup of its local populations they serve.. to get policing by consent we require a representative police force.

If we did, then maybe we wouldn't have on a regular basis the below... Or a need for BLM ...

This happens regularly so much so it hardly makes the news.

Yesterday ,a father and his 13-year-old son on a charity bike ride were nearly tasered by the police, because they fitted the description of two suspects
being Black....

It must have been humiliating for the father lying handcuffed on the ground in front of his young son. Not to mention a father's helplessness in not being able to help or protect his 13 year old son from nearly being tasered. When both were innocent.

Or the Black Bank manager wrongly arrested, with the investigating officers unconsciously thinking in part guilt, due to a lifestyle not expected of a young Black man.... Only saved after the stacking of his alleged crimes, was being able to afford a good lawyer and his Banking abilities of keeping good records to explain "his life style." ..but he shouldn't have needed too.








Black dad and son, 13, tackled and handcuffed by police on charity bike ride
Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/29/black...2/?ito=cbshare

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It might be just me, but I find that offensive and in extreme bad taste
Sense of humour by-pass still working ok then.
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Football world, trying to be PC, are scrabbling around for a black player from history so they can shove a statue up; no doubt with this weekend's F1 we will see everyone on their knees to keep Lewis happy - Mercedes have already painted their cars black, for God's sake!

Lots of Virtue Signalling going on.

Only question is when will the backlash come, and in what form?

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Sense of humour by-pass still working ok then.
If you think it is funny, then post it on the jokes thread. I am dismayed that anyone can stoop so low as to post it on a thread like this. It shows contempt for the feeling of others and a nastiness that I have rarely seen TLF.
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As I've said before Steve, the rabble rousing right stay mainly dormant until they have a cause to oppose. BLM gave them the oxygen and they turned up as anticipated. However, they do not make outrageous demands about who should be in what job and they haven't insisted on everybody and their granny making one armed Nazi salutes to compete with 'taking the knee'.
I think they are seen mainly as a bunch of misfits who have a demo from time to time as a protest, then go back to their 'normal' lives.
In short, they are not trying to overwhelm the UK with their doctrination, which cannot be said the same of BLM, Extinction Rebellion and the left leaning nutters.
I would like to see the data backing up the comments you made in bold above please.

I find it difficult to believe that you have looked very deep into the ascendency of the extreme right around the world. The USA is experiencing a wave of right extremist terrorism, other countries are not exempt.

The Rise of Far-Right Extremism in the United States (scholarly study)
https://www.csis.org/analysis/rise-f...-united-states

This author of the Anti-fascist Handbook (below) would disagree with your comments, please read his book, tell me then how the extreme right are so benign.
Watch the video in this book review about halfway down the page:
Antifa: the Anti-fascist Handbook – 'What Trump said made the book seem even more urgent'
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...harlottesville
"One of the most fundamental principles of antifa is “no platform for fascism”, Bray argues, and is a rejection of “the liberal notion that fascism is a school of thought worthy of open debate and consideration.” Their activities include educational campaigns, working with communities, monitoring fascist individuals and being prepared to “physically confront the far right when necessary. Though this last facet of anti-fascism gets the most attention, it is actually only a small fraction of the thankless drudgery that is committing oneself to tracking the scum of the earth,”

If anyone believes any current fascist is worthy of debate
then roll the clock back and jump into 1943 and
have a debate and disagree with Eichmann, Goebbels,
Mussollini, or the other nazis of that time.

Black vs White Power Post:
Trump

Alt-right (extreme right wing) post:
Trump
I repeat, there are NO "very fine" nazis. None.
(Nazis are just part of the extreme right in the USA)
See the second video in this post for just ONE of the many examples of the extreme right and their escalating violence in the USA.
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BLM is a far left wing organisation which is extremely well funded

by extremely well I mean to the tune of several hundred million pounds last year


Some of their views are extreme such as defunding the police and disbanding the concept of a family as we understand it. and replacing it with a commune based system

I am 100% supportive of their existence in a society of free speech and freedom of beliefs but I am 100% against the use of their wealth and power to suppress free speech in others and their willingness to support criminal and violent behaviour by their "followers"

VERY few BLM supporters understand what this political group really stand for

Stage one of waking the f##k up is understanding BLM is a powerful far left political movement who as a tiny percentage of their overall goal, focus on issues related directly to the oppression of black people by the state. They have no interest in black people being killed in other environments and not just a hash tag

If you want a counter argument to BLM just post this link

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/inve...-timpa-s-life/

So what would the response be to a far right group called "white lives matter" protesting & rioting as a result of the above incident?
This is the response by a far right group...
Please post your references to the funding of BLM and your opinion of why you believe that is an argument against BLM.

I watched the DallasNews video and I do not understand how anyone can take the point of view that it is a counter argument to BLM. Please enlighten me.

If you carefully read the data on the two sites below, they show disproportionate violence by police toward black males. They also address the issue of mental illness deaths by police, what, I believe you might mean by the DallasNews video? (Although I am not sure)

People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2017-2020
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...olice-by-race/
the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 30 fatal shootings per million of the population as of June 2020.

Deaths Due to Use of Lethal Force by Law Enforcement
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/
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Victims were majority white (52%) but disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites...Recent analyses17 suggest that legal intervention deaths increased 45% (from 0.11 to 0.16/100,000) between 1999 and 2013, with higher rates among blacks (0.24)...
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Sound advice?
YouTube
Actually it is sound advice, unfortunately what Chris Rock did was
make a dark and ironic comedy, not funny and in poor taste...
about the below...

Stop the Violence Safety Video for when you get pulled over by the Police.

An example of "walking while black" (a crime in some neighborhoods),
UH, while carrying a rifle in the open with a LEGAL permit to carry.


Trump did not start the violence of the extreme (alt) right in the USA but his election accelerated the instances of it and emboldened its advocates such as Rush Limbaugh, FAUX (not) news and its sewage spitting characters such as Hannity, Breitbart and Bannon, et. al.

Extreme right media sources:
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Sorry wrong place. Hils.

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