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Old 11th September 2012, 09:26   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Do not sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Morning all time for a rant reminder!

Please, please, please, do not sign anything which you do not understand

There are still crooks out there (doubtless you "best friend" at the time) who will encourage you to sign a "receipt" for anything under the sun.

Many of these receipts will later turn out to be "SENETS" - these are bonds securing funds which you promise to pay on demand.

Believe me the demand will not be long in coming as you are summoned to pay up! these guys are all too plausible, and the amounts on some of the senets are frightening - I have seen them written for hundreds of thousands of Turkish Lira.

Now I ask you, when you cannot complete any legal transaction in turkey without a government regulated translator - WHY would you sign something in a language which most of us do not understand.

The people trapped by these rogues can and frequently do lose everything, for that reason I have no problem re-highlighting this issue

you have all been warned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Do not sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Steve. Was actually thinking of posting something about this today myself. Have heard too many scarey stories lately about people who have signed a paper/papers which were written in turkish and only taking the word of the person asking them to sign it.

Do not sign anything you can't read! It doesn't matter if you've known the person for years ...get it checked out first!
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Old 11th September 2012, 09:43   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Alison

My point exactly - dont care if you know all four grandparents - If you do not undestand what is written - do not sign!
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Thanks very much steve for the information.
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Re: Do not sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks Steve..this is something i am always warning people about.
without giving any details away i have been recently involved with two people in alanya who have been well and truly done over in this way and lost so much by crooks they thought were friends ...when money is involved in middle east mentality friendship is not involved ..be suspicious of the word friend it has a different meaning here..

in fact even when you get done over by a friend the friend cant understand why this changes the friendship .. and can be really hurt .. its a different mindset from the UK or even northern europe
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Re: Do not sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello Steve.Do you think there is any chance in letting the tourist board know about this wicked scam.lt must be brought to the intention of holiday makers and the niave renters etc and brought to the media attention for those that wish to visit Turkey.l also think the holiday companies over here in Britian should know about this so they can print out the do's and don'ts on a leaflet so the visiter can read it in their own time on the plane,coach,etc.
What do you think.
The trouble is,many visiters to Turkey are not aware of this scam
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Re: Do not sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Friends" like these we can and should all lose - quickly

The amount of money at stake ruins peoples lives, and for many their dream of a new life in Turkey

They seem to be occuring more and more which is why I posted this again.
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Here is a link about one of those senet scams.
Hobbit'Sez: A "typical" day in Turkey?
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Re: Do not sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have heard about this as well - a friend was a recent victim. If they agree I will post the story later
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Whilst İ applaud these posts of warnings please be aware it's not just Turkey - it's not just Turks - İ know several Brits in Gaza Pasa and Alanya scammed by fellow countrymen.

Also re governments wanting to advise or help - don't think so adverts on British TV when there six weeks ago offering short terms loans at interest rates of 1001% and it's legal. No they don't give a dam being naive is indeed a crime and trusting falls not far behind.

İf it requires a signature take it to your bank if you don't want a translator. My guess ''your friend'' will decide you don't need to sign after-all.
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