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Old 26th July 2015, 18:14   #1 (permalink)
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Civil War In Turkey?

...more irresponsible reporting or not?

Turkey on brink of a return to civil war: Two-year ceasefire nears collapse as rise of Islamic State sparks tit-for-tat attacks between Turkish forces and Kurdish rebels | Daily Mail Online


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Old 26th July 2015, 20:17   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Civil War In Turkey?

I think civil war is a very real possibility in Turkey and the events over the past few days have increased that possibility. I'm guessing that Turkey have requested a NATO meeting to state that they are planning a 'buffer' zone in Northern Syria. This area has been fought for inch by inch by the Kurds and has on the whole been rid of ISIS. Turkey didn't feel the need to create a safe haven when Kobane was under attack by ISIS...nor did it feel the need when it allowed ISIS fighters to use it's border to enter Kobane earlier this month to slaughter over 120 women and children. It wants it's buffer zone to keep the Kurds at bay and to help ISIS even more.
However i also think The PKK are a very different group to what they were even 10 years ago...so any action by them will not be targeted at civilians...more the dams that Turkey are building and boots on the ground within Syria. If that happens i hope The YPG pull back to Northern Syria and let the world fight ISIS...at the moment the only real force that has stood up to ISIS has been the Kurds, mostly The YPG. Without them as allies lets see what coalition air strikes can achieve.
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Re: Civil War In Turkey?

it is factual reporting ....... arty will stop at nothing to get re-elected without the need for a coalition government and maybe even still make President - bombing the Kurds will win him back a lot of MHP (nationalist party) votes - if that happens, long term, that is worse for Turkey even compared with what is happening right now .......
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Re: Civil War In Turkey?

Turkey has called for an extraordinary meeing of NATO to discuss the escalating violence caused by the crisis in Syria.

The meeting, which will be held in Brussels on Tuesday, was invoked under Article 4 of the NATO treaty.

This allows any of the organisation's 28 members to request assistance when they consider "their territorial integrity, political independence or security is threatened".

A statement from NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said: "Turkey requested the meeting in view of the seriousness of the situation after the heinous terrorist attacks in recent days, and also to inform Allies of the measures it is taking.

Turkey Calls For NATO Meeting Over Syria Crisis
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Consider the source, find a credible one.
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Re: Civil War In Turkey?

If a source came direct from British intelligence would that be considered credible?
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Short answer to that...... NO!
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Haha . British intel, reliable haha.
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Re: Civil War In Turkey?

Double strategy for Erdoghan opening up a rift with the Kurds and hoping that the electorate will support him when the election is rerun ,clearly aimed at the HDP and then using ISIS as an excuse and seeking support from NATO
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Re: Civil War In Turkey?

Turkey have now bombed YPG positions within Northern Syria. The YPG are not a listed terrorist group. They have been working for years with The Coalition against ISIS. In fact it is with The YPG that foreign units have been embedded to help direct air strikes against ISIS positions. This will be interesting as the US/UK are bombing to help them and Turkey are bombing to kill them. The YPG are thought to have over 200 foreign nationals fighting within their ranks. There are British, Australian, Canadian, American, Germans...people from over 30 different nations fighting alongside YPG and YPJ forces...wonder what will happen if Turkey kill them?
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