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Old 25th August 2017, 17:24   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Bayrum Day : 1st September 2017.

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Ok - so when you do your 'sacrifice' the animal is still alive at the end??? Great news!
This is a ridiculous conversation after all I asked was which day all the 'non -killing' will take place.


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It's next Friday 1st, September, and as mentioned before there is a difference in Killing and sacrifice !, which I think you are not getting....
We believe that all Animals , life and or any living things are created from God and if we sacrifice from his word then it's not a killing. If you shot and animal or any living thing that is called killing.

I know you only asked for the exact date, but you referred to it as killing, which it's not and needed to clarify this to you and anyone else reading this post.
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It's next Friday 1st, September, and as mentioned before there is a difference in Killing and sacrifice !, which I think you are not getting....
We believe that all Animals , life and or any living things are created from God and if we sacrifice from his word then it's not a killing. If you shot and animal or any living thing that is called killing.

I know you only asked for the exact date, but you referred to it as killing, which it's not and needed to clarify this to you and anyone else reading this post.
what you are not getting is that we are all entitled to our own opinion. To me and also my Turkish muslim inlaws it is killing.......


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Re: Bayrum Day : 1st September 2017.

I guess you were a Christian and now a Muslim after joining a Turkish family, so I can understand the most-understanding.......

I have Turkish friends too and some call themselves muslims, but they drink alcohol which is forbidden in Islamic law.....

On the debate about sacrifice or "killing", I suggest your Turkish family to visit mosque and as the local Imam....... he will explain in detail...
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I guess you were a Christian and now a Muslim after joining a Turkish family, so I can understand the most-understanding.......

I have Turkish friends too and some call themselves muslims, but they drink alcohol which is forbidden in Islamic law.....

On the debate about sacrifice or "killing", I suggest your Turkish family to visit mosque and as the local Imam....... he will explain in detail...

You assume a lot. Why would you assume i'm now a muslim? İ'm not and never would be. My in laws dont need lessons from the imam thank you they know about islam but they are intelligent enough to disagree with some things and still live a good and respectful life. They would also never have been disrespectful enough to ever even mention to me that I may prefer to convert to their religion.
Its interesting how the only one of us who is being disrespectful to muslims here is you - the muslim.


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Re: Bayrum Day : 1st September 2017.

If you say they are your in-laws then you are married to a Turkish.
For a start, a Muslim is not allowed to marry a non Muslim unless they become a revert.
Again, you are missing the point here and Ask your self how many times your husband goes to Mosque. I know a lot of Turkish people who call themselves muslims but do not practice Isam. So, how can they call themselves muslims ?......
If you wanted to find please I suggest you go and visit the mosque then find out about true Islam rather than relying on people's assumption.
I am giving you correct information form a good information source.....

Don't get angry, please as I am trying to explain to you so that you know.

Have a good week-end.....
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I think its you thats missing the point. You cant accept that different people can have different and also valid opinions. You assume that I know nothing about Islam and have never been to a mosque and never spoken to an Imam and that only people that live as you live are living correctly. Your narrow mindedness is equally astounding, saddening and hilarious
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In the absence of a church in Alanya I visit a mosque regularly and pray there. It is not correct that to marry with a muslim you must convert (and before you start on about the correct term being "revert" and the whys of that dont bother because I know that too ) We had 2 marriages. A legal one in the marriage office and also one at the mosque with the imam and yes he did know that I'm Christian.
The wording of the quran can be interpreted in many ways, as can the Bible. I believe according to some it also says there somewhere that muslims should kill all non-muslims..........


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I think its you thats missing the point. You cant accept that different people can have different and also valid opinions. You assume that I know nothing about Islam and have never been to a mosque and never spoken to an Imam and that only people that live as you live are living correctly. Your narrow mindedness is equally astounding, saddening and hilarious
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In the absence of a church in Alanya I visit a mosque regularly and pray there. It is not correct that to marry with a muslim you must convert (and before you start on about the correct term being "revert" and the whys of that dont bother because I know that too ) We had 2 marriages. A legal one in the marriage office and also one at the mosque with the imam and yes he did know that I'm Christian.
The wording of the quran can be interpreted in many ways, as can the Bible. I believe according to some it also says there somewhere that muslims should kill all non-muslims..........


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Wrong interpretation again.
Koran does not say to kill all non-Muslims. I challenge you to tell me where it is......
It doe say that for self defence but not any other means. It says that you live in peace and harmony with Muslims same as non-Muslims......

Please let me know which Imam says that you can marry a non-Muslim in Islamic ceremony and I challenge you on that.....
I do not believe how people get mis-guided on this. I think you better get a copy of the Koran with English translation and read it all, then you will appreciate the whole of Islam. ......
I fear that like a lot of people you do no have the correct information and of course people will say things to suit their lifestyle. Koran has not been change over so many thousands of years unlike other religious books and there is no two ways. The only way is Koran way and you need to read it to understand it. I can get you a copy of the Koran with English translation if you want.....PM me...
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Koran has not changed for thousands of years , are you sure , did your imaginary friend tell you that ?

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Koran has not changed for thousands of years , are you sure , did your imaginary friend tell you that ?

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I don't have imaginary friends, it's a fact. It's never changed from when it was revealed to Prophet Mohammed PBUH....

Prove me otherwise !.....
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