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Old 28th August 2017, 20:23   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Bayrum Day : 1st September 2017.

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I do not agree with you and you are entitled to your opinion, but I will get this checked out by the higher authorities in Islam.
Which "higher authority" are you going to approach? The one that supports what you want to believe, or the one that may give a different opinion? You will always find different interpretations because....
"..... a statement made by this or that scholar or clergymen, by this or that messenger or prophet, has no truth-value just because they said so. Prophets, messengers, and scholars, all are humans like us, and their personal statements or understanding of God's word have no authority in defining Islam. "

The best understanding is that which you define for yourself by reading the quran in your own language and seeking the "truth" for yourself.
And even then you have a choice of translations which may be biased in one or another direction!!

So why not investigate within the quran itself - as the "highest authority"? Might take a while to sift through it all, but at least you could form an opinion based on what is in the book itself, and not in someone else's mind, or at someone else's level of understanding.

I'm not interested in being right or wrong, but I do believe in questioning and researching rather than taking someone else's opinion or experience as "truth".

And I guess that's why I posted in this thread.....

Best of luck with your search for answers, and many blessings for a pleasant and peaceful bayram.
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Re: Bayrum Day : 1st September 2017.

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I have no argument with that, Christianity also makes demands.
I only question why we cannot move on. If the poor and unfortunate people are given the means to feed themselves they would have no need of charity, but instead could pass on charity to others.

I agree Kanga. In my opinion one of the major problems of the world today is that İslam isnt allowed to "move on" or evolve in any way. Every single thing in the world evolves - thats the way of nature and the earth itself - so surely it can be seen clearly that God / Allah created it specifically TO evolve and we as human beings should acknowledge, accept, respect and welcome that. Islam resisting against moving on with the world seems to be them trying to 'hold back the tide' and theyre now realising that can only work for so long, hence here we are with the world as it is today..........


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Re: Bayrum Day : 1st September 2017.

With respect to Islam , to an unknowledgeable outsider , such as self , the guardianship of the faith seems to be the preserve of elderly , sometimes uneducated men .

Always imho , a surefire recipe for conservatism .

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