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Old 4th October 2010, 09:25   #1 (permalink)
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poverty in Turkey

These are the july /august/September figures for bread line and poverty line in Turkey as issued every month by Turkish Trade Unions.www.Türk-İş.org

The figures are based on what a family of four need ..these are interesting as the minimum wage is 720 lira gross 577 lira net
the poverty line is arguably inflated as many people in a reasonable job dont earn that much...still a decent standard of living is what we all want to achieve and with the cost of living now rising in Turkey the figures are not excessive..i know many people struggle here especially when they have young children.
Around 20% of the population in Turkey live on or under the bread line.


Açlık Sınırı (starvation line line) 821,66lira(July) 815,99lira(Aug) 846,63lira(sept)

Yoksulluk Sınırı (poverty line) 2.676,42(july) 2.657,95(aug) 2. 757,75(sept)
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Old 4th October 2010, 09:33   #2 (permalink)
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Re: poverty in Turkey

I honestly don't know how people on the minimum wage or less than 1000 lira survive with a family? I know how much I spend a month (without the little luxuries) and maybe this is why a lot of people I know seem to be in a lot of debt with the bank.
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Re: poverty in Turkey

me too Lyndsey..we dont live in luxury and still it takes a fair bit to live in reasonably comfort.
We never seem to have much info on the forum about child hunger yet it exists
there is more interest in the street animals than the street children.
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Re: poverty in Turkey

Sadly a lot of poverty does exist in Turkey, its just not so apparent in the areas that most ex pats live.
I've often thought how many families survive with the incomes that they have, but they do...they have to!
One family i know, a single mother grows all her own veg, keeps small livestock and trades for what she doesn't have. Shes lucky because she doesnt have rent to pay, even though home is nothing more than what a stable would be in the UK. Many survive this way.

I think we hear more on the forum about the street animals because people find it easier to help them, not because they care more about them. Its easier to directly help a starving dog at your gate than it is a hungry child in a village somewhere. Even when many come across poverty they find it difficult to help, not many expats have the language skills to communicate. Some that do are wary of how to approach the subject of poverty, not wanting to offend.

I'm often amazed at the divide here between rich and poor, its like there is a very small middle class.
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If you think street animals get more help than children do something about it shirley and help them..I also think children should not live this way and have helped poor familys in the past..My passion however is animals..But i would never see a child go hungry if i could do something about it..
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I think we hear more on the forum about the street animals because people find it easier to help them, not because they care more about them. Its easier to directly help a starving dog at your gate than it is a hungry child in a village somewhere. Even when many come across poverty they find it difficult to help, not many expats have the language skills to communicate. Some that do are wary of how to approach the subject of poverty, not wanting to offend.QUOTE]

Yes, I agree with you. We would love to help as much as we can, but all the things you mention above come in to play. We do what we can locally, but for the reasons you state, it is very difficult.

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If you think street animals get more help than children do something about it shirley and help them...
I'm think that this comment is very unfair, i do a lot for street children, poor families in general and i don't publish it. In fact a project i am working on at the moment is to distribute parcels to expectant mothers,similar to the bounty packs in the UK. I hope she wont mind me telling you this but Shirley has offered to do all the translation for the literature and be actively involved in the project, something that takes a lot of time. Others members on the forum have also volunteered their time and services, many members do much but don't advertise this.

I don't advertise what i do on the forum for various reasons. I'm not at the stage where i need more help than i have (at the moment). Also i think that its tough times for people and there are enough threads asking for money without me adding to it. That's not a dig at the Turkish Animal Group, as i dont think Shirleys post was either. Its just how i see things. In fact i made a small donation last week...i just wish it was more and i could do more.

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Trust me when i say i mean nothing at all by what i said..So dont take offence to what i said please..
I saw dogs everywhere in 2002 and knew i had to do something about it, Thats all im saying..You could start a campaign or something to help them, Fundraiser etc and people in these small villages are very welcoming and i dropped off a cooker , Utensils and cooking pots etc will some money in the past and i never felt that they were offended by this and infact i still see them and were friends now..
Yes they struggle to understand me but a smile says everything and when they see me its smiles all round and i love that..If you need any help with anything give me a shout id be pleased to help xx
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Re: poverty in Turkey

it shouldn't be about us(animals) and them (kids)... so there is no need to be defensive.

however it is true that threads about animals get a hell of a lot more attention than poor children who some of us have seen scavenging in bins.
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