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Old 30th January 2015, 12:57   #1 (permalink)
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Help with 120 day rule

Hi, wonder if any one has any thoughts about my situation. I have a 3 yr residency blue book commencing April 10th 2014 ( yes got it just in time ) I was in Turkey from 30th March 2014 on an e visa whilst I applied for residency. My question is I have flights booked for 5th March returning to Turkey 19th March, will they calculate the 120 days from the start of the residency or March 19th 2014. If it is the latter I am snookered , if from beginning of my Residency will be ok to go. Any one any thoughts? can't get any answers at the moment. Thanks
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Old 30th January 2015, 13:16   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Help with 120 day rule

From what I've read I believe they calculate from the day of entry and look BACK. If you have been out of Turkey for more than 120 days in the last year they will cancel your RP. You can cover yourself by having a evisa with you and you will be allowed entry but then be subject to the usual visa rules (90/180 days).
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This does not answer the question, I to am needing to know.

The way I see it, prior to obtaining my RP I was on a e visa so classed as a tourist / visitor, surely the calculation for those with RPs must be be from the date you obtained your permit.???????
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This does not answer the question, I to am needing to know.

The way I see it, prior to obtaining my RP I was on a e visa so classed as a tourist / visitor, surely the calculation for those with RPs must be be from the date you obtained your permit.???????
Not as far as I'm aware it doesn't but I stand to be corrected....I think they take it from your date of entry of your latest visit and count back. As I mentioned join Doc Martins' Surgery on FB and read all about it...

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Re: Help with 120 day rule

120 Day Rule:

If you are out of Turkey for more than 120 days in the previous 12 month period your residence permit will be cancelled on re-entry to Turkey and you must obtain either an e-Visa, or visa on arrival, to cover your stay until you wish to reapply for a residence permit. This rule is now being applied to both short term residence permits issued after April 2014 (new style card) and those issued prior to April 2014 (old blue book style).

https://www.gov.uk/living-in-turkey

Doesn't say anything about the commencement of the RP. It clearly states 'in the previous 12 months'.
This seems to be the cause of the problem, but no one actually knows if or how it will be implemented on entry. Most peoples visas will be cancelled unless they've been residing in Turkey for more than 8 months in the past year, because you can only stay in Turkey for 90 days in 180!

Stupid, clearly intended to cause problems.

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Thanks Charlotte....you've provided info far clearer than I can obviously explain...
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Re: Help with 120 day rule

Thanks for the response. I understand that they look back over the previous year, but for all new residency holders in 2014 is it from the date of residency permit issue? I have looked elsewhere extensively on this but keep getting told the same that they look back over the previous year and not an answer re from what date do they look back to for the new residency holders. In my situation if they look back from March 19th 2015 to 19th March 2014 I wasn't resident in March but on a e visa from 30th March. I know this sounds complicated but could be an easy answer some where.
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Hi, so if I understand what is being said ,if someone obtained a residecy permit on the 1st jam 2015 then left Turkey in March for 2 weeks on their return they would have there visa cancelled because they had been out of Turkey for over 120 days.within the last 12 months. This cannot be, surely it's got to be in the last year since the visa was issued.
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Re: Help with 120 day rule

No one actually knows, so far such circumstances or theories haven't been tested (apparently the new rule has only begun being implemented in the past few days). The way the rule is currently written does not make any provisions for new RP holders, so it's impossible to know.
I did read somewhere that it also applies to 8 month RPs too, so how would that work? Seems unfair to judge somewhere on where they've been during the past 12 months if they could only live in Turkey for the past 8 anyway.


It will all come down to implementation, the only to know is to ask immigration to clarify the matter - however even that can change depending on point of entry!

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Hi again,

My point is, prior to receiving my 3 year RP I had nothing to do with Turkey other than occasional visits on visas, I was living in the UK, not Turkey.
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