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Old 15th April 2015, 19:20   #1 (permalink)
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Consulate Update

RESIDENCE permits, driving licenses and ISIS were in the mix of issues addressed at the latest meeting hosted by the British Embassy in Didim yesterday (Mon Apr 13).

Here is a rundown of the issues addressed by Mr Timothy Fisher, HM Consul for Turkey. The meeting which last just over an hour was attended by about 30 to 40 expats.

Mr Fisher, while providing the information supplied by the Turkish authorities, underlined that with a ‘health warning’: “Everything that I say is supplied by the Turkish authorities and may or may not be applied in practice, but it’s supposed to be working.”

Residence Permits (RP)

The consulates have a direct liaison officer to approach with all their questions at the Directorate of Migration Management (DGMM).

LTRP

For those applying for Long Term Residence Permits (LTRP), it appears that you have to apply through the main province’s foreign police city department……so those living in Didim will have to apply in Aydin, those in Mugla province will have to go through the Mugla directorate, and so on.

One resident in Didim who has an LTRP revealed some of the drawbacks: one that he had paid into a Turkish pension, but the government was not now guaranteeing certain draw downs on that investment, and that he could not get a mobile contract with the permit

120-day rule.

For those out of the country for in excess of 120 days, they run the risk of having their permit cancelled. Although it appears that this is not yet being applied at immigration as computer systems were not yet in sync.

The 120 day rule is being applied back to April 2014 for both old and new style permits

If you have a family residence permit, the excess applied for being out the country is 180 days.

Those on LTRPs, the excess for being out of the country before they run the risk of the permit being cancelled is 12 months.

Mr Fisher advised those who thought they may have their permits cancelled for excessive stays outside the country, should invest in an evisa before their return.

If a permit is cancelled because of the 120-day rule, you have a 10-day window in which to re-apply for a new one.

One resident asked why there were no ID pictures on the new permits. Mr Fisher advised that at some point in the future, pictures will be added to the permit cards. If that was necessary, just as you need to change your address or circumstances on the card, the cost would be 50TL – the cost of replacing the card. But he added: “There is no information coming from the DGMM when ID photographs will be applied to the permit cards.”

He reiterated that residents could apply 60 days before the end date of their permit for a new one. An application for a LTRP could be two months before the end of the present permit.

Mr Fisher said: “It is apparent that the law as applied in Ankara and the implementation of those laws on the ground varies significantly from office to office across the country.

”We get a rigid interpretation of the law, but we are finding that systems are not in place, DGMM offices are not in place and computer systems have not been updated.

"A lot of the regional offices are more flexible in their interpretations of the laws. That may be to our advantage, but it can change very quickly. It’s not ideal, but that’s the situation.”

For further information you can look at the www.goc.gov. tr website

Driving Licenses

Consulates serving EU countries have sought clarification on a number of issues relating to the driving licence issue.

Mr Fisher said you can drive on Turkish roads using your original driving license, but it must have been translated and notarized.

If you are stopped and the above has not been done, then you could be liable for fines and action.

You can obtain a Turkish driving license. From anecdotal evidence, it costs about 700TL to get it converted. However, the application from the Turkish police to the DVLA and the return confirmation can take several months, but once done, the process is relatively quick, with a visit to four offices and few hours’ work.

Mr Fisher said that if you have to produce your license for an offence at a local police station, then you normally have 10 days to do that.

He added: “You are not obligated to get a Turkish driving license as a foreign one can be used on Turkish roads. But your original can be converted. That’s direct information supplied by the Minister of Foreign Affairs.”

Bodrum consulate

A mobile service was now in place within the Bodrum district for expats and they could avail of the services on appointment. The consulate is using the Marina Vista Hotel, in Bodrum as its base.

Emergency passports would take 2 to 3 days in applying through the Bodrum office, but the Izmir consulate would issue these quicker.

ISIS
In relation to ISIS and the Syrian issue, Mr Fisher said the influx of people to Turkey and onwards to the Syrian border from the UK – as well as human traffic back the same way to the UK – was causing concern for consulate staff.

He said that as a result, an extra security measure had been put in place with passports being re-checked on the tarmac before travelers boarded their aircraft. He said the need to check names could impact on delayed flights.

He added: “However, Turkey is not the Syrian border. Turkey is safe and secure. Turkey is a big country for holidaymakers to explore, but we are battling a media narrative that is not entirely positive due to the ISIS issue.

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Old 15th April 2015, 19:24   #2 (permalink)
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Thank you for the update .
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Suzyq- thanks for comprehensive update. You know - nothing much has changed in Turkey over the past 10 years in terms of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing - particularly re Ankara edicts being interpreted in diferent ways across the country.

With regard to driving licence issue - do visitors entering on a 90/180 day evisa have to have their UK licences translated and notarised?
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I was stopped in Bodrum last year , all docs inspected. UK license accepted without question. No translation or notarisation , we were in a hire car.

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Oh no, not the old driving license routine!
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As i look like a thug I get stopped regularly and just show my man united season ticket that usualy works, probably feel sorry for me.

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I was stopped in Bodrum last year , all docs inspected. UK license accepted without question. No translation or notarisation , we were in a hire car.

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had same experience Steve - I was stopped in Didim and in Soke last year and there was no problem encountered. However things seems to be changing pretty quickly re rules and as I am due to leave in a couple of weeks for Turkey I just want to be sure so I am not turned back at the border crossing point.
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In relation to the driving license it is not the police that is the problem, it is the insurance companies who will say you are not covered. If you are in a country for more than six months you are supposed to apply for a local license. My view on things!
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i am not too clear on driving license too.
do i have to translate my uk license even if i am staying for two months?
and if so where do i get it notarised?in the uk or in turkey?
if in turkey will i be allowed in at the border before i have it notarised?
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Mr f,if you are holidaying & in a hire car,you will probably be fine.But if holding an RP and driving a vehicle registered too you,that 'may' be different.
You can get you license translated & noterized in Turkey.Just go to any Noter & they will phone a translator who will translate your license & hand it to the noter for stamping.Should cost now around 15ish tl.
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