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Old 2nd March 2019, 10:07   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Tourist residence permit and tax

They replied to me asking me what passport I hold - since I responded 12 days ago there has been no reply. Followed up this morning.

Can anybody recommend a highly regarded tax advisor in Turkey that specializes in international tax, who could put this to rest for me?

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Old 3rd March 2019, 12:03   #22 (permalink)
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You might get a pointer from the website yellali.

http://yellali.com/en/
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Old 7th March 2019, 11:57   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Tourist residence permit and tax

The tax law does not clearly state whether your tourist residence permit is considered as your domicile or not.

They advise I apply to the ruling system - it seems I can apply for a ruling for my unique case without having to pay top dollar to a tax advisor.
General Information | Revenue Administration

Unfortunately both forms are in Turkish - I'm unsure which one to fill in as google translate has no translation for the word "Malmüdürlükleri"
Özelge Talep Formu | Gelir ?daresi Ba?kanl???

Has anyone used this "ruling system" before?

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Old 7th March 2019, 17:26   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Tourist residence permit and tax

There's no such thing as a 'tourist residence permit' as you call it.

Either you get an e-visa which allows a stay/s of max total 90 days in a 180 day period, or you get a residency permit which is issued first-time for a max of 12 months, to be renewed for a max of 24 months. This allows you to enter and leave as you wish without restriction during the time it is valid. It does not give you any right of long term residency or citizenship.

PWC offer advice on TC taxation. https://www.pwc.com.tr/en/hakkimizda.html
They have offices in Ankara Bursa Izmir and Istanbul.
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Old 11th March 2019, 10:31   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Tourist residence permit and tax

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There's no such thing as a 'tourist residence permit' as you call it.

Foreign nationals coming for touristic purposes | Short Term Residence Permit | Residence Permits | e-ikamet.com


This is what I refer to - residence permit for touristic purposes.
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Re: Tourist residence permit and tax

Yes, that's a residency permit for a year that is for non-working/non-employee status.If you want to work or study there's a different application. Other than that the standard tourist visa is the 90/180 day one.
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Old 22nd April 2019, 09:45   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Tourist residence permit and tax

Still trying to get an official answer on this.
The best official email response I've gotten is;

According to the article 4 of the Income Tax Law numbered 193, the persons indicated below shall be considered as domiciled in Turkey;

1-Those whose domicile in Turkey,
2-Those who reside continuously more than 183 days in Turkey in the course of one calendar year.

They shall be considered as resident taxpayer and taxed on the earnings and revenues they received both in Turkey and outside Turkey.

According to the article 5/1 of the same Law;

Foreigners indicated below shall not be considered as domiciled in Turkey, even if they stay in Turkey for more than 183 days,

Businessmen, scientists, specialists, officials, press and information correspondents, who come to Turkey on a given or temporary mission or for business, and other persons in a similar situation as well as those who come to Turkey for studies, medical treatment, ?Rest and Travel?.

However, the Income Tax Law numbered 193 does not clearly state whether your tourist residence permit is considered as your domicile or not.

Therefore, we advise that you apply to the ruling system.

Please click the link below for more information as to the ruling system.

Here is the link.
General Information | Revenue Administration


I have come to Turkey for rest and travel so that would override the 183 day rule, unsure if they ask for proof of this though.

The income tax law (in Turkish which I don't speak) is here http://www.mevzuat.gov.tr/MevzuatMetin/1.4.193.pdf

A direct official written answer of "No" to the question "Will holding a tourist residence permit make me domiciled / tax resident of Turkey" is what I am looking for.

I visited Manavgat tax office who had no clue what this ruling form is and infovimer@gelirler.gov.tr support told me to contact Antalya Tax Office Directorate, who seem to have a low level of English on the phone and haven't replied to my emails - I guess I will have to make the trip there and hope they understand me better in person.
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Re: Tourist residence permit and tax

Why on earth are you so bothered about paying tax in Turkey? Basically if you are here for more than 6 months and have an income arising from work/business/investment/deposits in Turkey you must pay tax on it. How are you so 'unique'?
You already have that answer which you posted above. . .

2-Those who reside continuously more than 183 days in Turkey in the course of one calendar year.

They shall be considered as resident taxpayer and taxed on the earnings and revenues they received both in Turkey and outside Turkey.


If you dont intend to work or run a business here and you have income already taxed and/or arising outside Turkey that is not paid directly to you in Turkey, (ie: paid to a UK bank) you will not pay more tax under the reciprocal agreements that UK has with Turkey, unless you are liable to make a tax return to HMRC which results in a balance of income tax due to UK.
If you are outside UK for more than a year that may not apply.
For example, some UK taxpayers have cash on deposit and the interest here is only taxed at 5%, leaving a balance of 15% due to HMRC, which should be declared on a self-assessment return.
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Re: Tourist residence permit and tax

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How are you so 'unique'?
I am a perpetual traveller and not a tax resident of any country, so I would not have a double taxation treaty to benefit from (no need to discuss this point as I already have been professionally advised on it).

If holding a tourist residence permit will make me domiciled / tax resident of Turkey I will choose to not apply for the permit and leave Turkey, hence why I'm searching for an answer for this.
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Why on earth are you so bothered about paying tax in Turkey? Basically if you are here for more than 6 months and have an income arising from work/business/investment/deposits in Turkey you must pay tax on it. How are you so 'unique'?
You already have that answer which you posted above. . .

2-Those who reside continuously more than 183 days in Turkey in the course of one calendar year.

They shall be considered as resident taxpayer and taxed on the earnings and revenues they received both in Turkey and outside Turkey.


If you dont intend to work or run a business here and you have income already taxed and/or arising outside Turkey that is not paid directly to you in Turkey, (ie: paid to a UK bank) you will not pay more tax under the reciprocal agreements that UK has with Turkey, unless you are liable to make a tax return to HMRC which results in a balance of income tax due to UK.
If you are outside UK for more than a year that may not apply.
For example, some UK taxpayers have cash on deposit and the interest here is only taxed at 5%, leaving a balance of 15% due to HMRC, which should be declared on a self-assessment return.
How does this tax arrangement work ? I have time deposits here and pay 15% on them ???
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