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Old 16th August 2007, 13:29   #1
Fio
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Proposed cement Factory in Uzumlu valley

Hi we were directed to this site by another member and suggested we let you know about this proposed factory that will devestate this beautiful Valley.
I am resposible for getting the word out wide and far to drum up resistance to this scheme. We have an online petition and a big article in the Fethiye Times which I have copied and pasted below. The petition is also available through the link.
If you are opposed to this scheme then please support us by signing and please do not sign anonymously as names matter.
The article is featured on the front page. If you know of others who are affected please pass the word on.
Many thanks
Fi

Proposed Cement Factory in Uzumlu : Update
Thursday, 16 August 2007
The meeting held in Uzumlu on Monday evening was well attended and the tea house was full with a mixture of ex pats, English & German, and Turkish people.

It transpired that it has not gone through the full public consultation & planning process yet and there was a representative from the Fethiye Bureau of Architects who are responsible for the environmental issues and he had not had it on his desk as of yet. He was in support of the action to stop it and offered some help financially towards the running costs of a committee. It has been said by some that the Architects bureau does not need to be consulted as this is underground/ mining matters and goes direct to the area governor in this case the Valigi in Mugla. Well the first petition is already on its way there.

The next step is to get the committee organised and then start the job of contacting all departments that they think might be able to help stop it. If anyone has friends or contacts with Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth etc let them know and see if they can help.

It is a "mini" cement factory, 25mt chimney, with the capacity to process 500 tons per day but the owner has said they will only be processing 200 tons per day. The reason given by them for building it was it would save them a few YTL per bag. It could affect an area of up to 40 km with dust and pollution.

The locals who first agreed the plans in Koru Koy are the only people to have been canvassed and have benefited by a new road and the promise of jobs. They are now being given the full facts and are absorbing the implications of the health hazards and air pollution issues.

Incikoy and Uzumlu residents were not consulted but they will be directly affected. The residents of Incirikoy now fully support the plans to get this halted and the locals of Arpecik / Nif are also being informed.

A petition is still available and over 700 signatures have been collected so far but there are still lots of people who are not aware of what is happening, so if you know anyone affected in the general area please let them know.

The general feeling was that it still is stoppable with the support of all the people who live in the affected area and it was planned to continue talking to the villagers so that they understand how important it is that it does not go ahead.

Some local builders were at the meeting as it will affect the price of land and houses if it goes ahead but more support is required.

On Weds 15th Aug about 12 people met with Cahit Engin, leader of the local chamber of architects in his office.

A copy of the factory plans has been obtained from the Internet and shared with those who can use it.

A recent copy of the Radikal newspaper apparently printed an article in its economy section stating Turkey is already producing more cement than it needs.


Full permissions have not yet been obtained and it appears the company are using various loopholes to get their permissions through.

The chamber of architects together with the combined chambers of relevant engineers, geologists, mining engineers, environmental engineers, building engineers will be working together on our behalf.

Contact was made with one of the owners of the factory and he was informed about the growing protests and was invited to come and explain matters to a small group of representatives, we await a date and time from him.


The dossier from a successful case that stopped a factory in the Bursa area is being forwarded to us. A suitable lawyer with relevant experience is being found.

Copies of the petitions with relevant pictures are being/have been forwarded to British and German Embassies. It will also will be presented to as many other authorities as appear appropriate, for example the environment agency in Koycegiz.

The Second Secretary for Energy and Environment at the British Embassy has been contacted, the petition will go to him and he will assist in helping us to contact the right Turkish departments and will be able to use our information as a specimen example in his work with informing Turkish authorities about coming into line with EU requirements and regulations.

There are plans to inform the Fethiye council leader about the growing protest and also to visit Arpecik/Nif villagers and Koru Koy for more support. Also visits will be made to the local waterworks, forestry and the agricultural office.

If Dalaman can shut down the paper factory on health grounds we should be able to stop this cement factory being built and even better perhaps close the quarry!

The working committee expects to meet again next Monday.

We need as many signatures as we can get . This attempt to industrialise a quite residential agricultural area could be the thin end of a wedge.

If you are in Uzumlu or surrounding areas please contact me if you wish to sign the petition in person via my profile and show your support.

Many Thanks on behalf of the committee
Fiona Robson
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Old 17th August 2007, 09:46   #2
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Hi Fi,
It might be a good idea to have a chat with the Mod's on here to get permission to put up the petition link. I'm sure the good people on this site will help in your quest to get as many signitures as possible.

Good Luck.
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Old 17th August 2007, 09:52   #3
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Our Turkish neighbours have a brother living in Uzumlu so we have already signed a copy of the petition, as have our friends. Good luck with getting signatures, I know that it is awful living near a cement producing factory.
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Old 17th August 2007, 10:26   #4
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This is a real NIMBY attitude typical of Brits abroad. Where do you think cement to build your houses comes from? It is OK to get it in someone else's village but not in your line of sight.
Shame on you!

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Old 17th August 2007, 10:28   #5
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Well, it's not only the Brits, Ian, as my neighbours are Turkish, as is their brother, and they don't want it in the valley, either. There is already one down the road towards Fethiye which no-one is complaining about, so either enlarge that one or build another near to it.
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Old 17th August 2007, 10:36   #6
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NIMBYism is a universal disease, whether they are Turkish or Brits.

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Old 17th August 2007, 13:22   #7
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Relax, its just a proposal. Nothing is set in concrete
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Old 17th August 2007, 18:43   #8
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If NIMBY is protecting an agricultural area, famed for it's natural beauty, and wanting to stop a cement factory being built that will affect the health of all (thats ex pats and Turks) that live here, then so be it.
Please note that the protest was started by Turks, not expats, and that there are over 700 signatures already in 10 days and for a smallish community thats not bad going.
Other cement factories have been built away from populated areas why not this one?
Plus it was reported in a National Turkish paper that Turkey produces more cement than it need, so why do they need more.
Public consultations should have taken place but they weren't so as residents that live here we have the right to stand up and be counted.
Would you have the same attitude if it was being built near your home and would you just sit back and do nothing? I think not.
Fi
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Old 17th August 2007, 19:01   #9
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The post office in Lampeter (poulation about 12000) was going to be moved out of town into the co-op.A petition collected 3,500 signatures against this as we wanted the post office in the main town.Even though there were premises available to house the post office the wishes of the people were completely ignored and the post office went out of town.
Once buracrats get an idea into their heads they seem to ignore the poulations wishes.

Hope they decide to put the proposed cement works in a more suitable place rather than making another site in open countryside
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Old 17th August 2007, 19:35   #10
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Hi all
Can i run the risk of falling foul of immac and just say, dont take any notice of his comments, why he needed to say that is beyond me.
Immac i have to say this time i cant believe you have jumped in both feet without any feeling for any one else, just shoot from the hip and bugger if it
upsets anybody,the proposed cement factory does not effect me in the slightest, and even if i didnt care less i could not see the point of getting the backs up of people who have some real concerns, as it happens i will happily put my name to a petition.
pete the postie, very good quick wit as allways,made me smile
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